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Old 09-26-2012, 03:46 PM   #6171 (permalink)
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I dont understand why the theory "Low rating = Less entertaining product" is simply dismissed as false? I mean dont we attribute the Ratings/PPV buys success of the Attitude era to more entertaining product? more entertaining and larger than life characters?

So we can credit the success of a show in terms of ratings to the quality of the product, but not when it bombs?
The theory is flawed because not everybody likes the same shit. I personally really liked Raw this past Monday but someone else probably hated it. Cena could be champ and feuding with Big Show and Raw gets a 4.0 rating for example does that mean it's going to = entertaining to me? No, everybody watches for their own reasons and like and dislike different things. Everybody would be Cena fans if we used the if it's successful it must be good logic.
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:50 PM   #6172 (permalink)
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Can't say I'm surprised... the booking is so inconsistent right now for most of the card and there are very few reasons to actually care about what is happening anymore. Most fans have been cultivated and trained through months and years of bad booking to not get invested becasue the WWE will not follow through on anything. And on top of that... you take a star that was actually over, made him the typical snivelling, whiny, cowardly heel that gets upstaged by the bullies WWE calls faces and most people just shrug and find something better to watch. This booking is on par, if not worse, than the New Generation Era. Just now, TNA hasn't reached WCW's level yet to force McMahon's hand into actually improving his product.

But even then, I don't know if it will happen. McMahon is obsessed with being an entertainment company that might have some decent wrestling, instead of a wrestling company that might have some decent entertainment. He's doing things completely backwards but expects it to work... sorry, there is better entertainment on the market. I watch a wrestling company for the wrestling. If I wanted a sitcom I'd switch over to CBS or NBC or something.
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:35 PM   #6173 (permalink)
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In the segment-by-segment, they opened with the second strongest segment of the show, with the Paul Heyman, C.M. Punk, Brad Maddox and A.J. segment at 2.99.

Kofi Kingston vs. Dolph Ziggler lost 262,000 viewers.

Santino Marella & Zack Ryder vs. Titus O’Neil & Darren Young lost 295,000 viewers to a 2.59 quarter and that was still in the first hour so it wasn’t burnout.

The Mick Foley/C.M. Punk segment at 9 p.m. gained 877,000 viewers which is one of the best growth segments in weeks and did a 3.22 quarter.

Miz vs. Ryback and the Harry Met Sally segment in the diner lost 533,000 viewers.

Wade Barrett vs. Tyson Kidd and the Jerry Lawler interview stayed even. I’d suggest that’s probably a combo of a big loss for Barrett vs. Kidd and a big gain back for the Lawler promo but don’t have that broken down.

Alberto Del Rio & David Otunga & Ricardo Rodriguez vs. Sheamus & Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara lost 129,000 viewers. That was at the 10 p.m. mark and did a 2.75 quarter, so the three hour show has really done a number on people tuning in at 10 p.m.

The third Bryan & Kane segment and the attack on Bryan & Kane by Cody Rhodes & Damien Sandow lost 412,000 viewers and did a 2.45 quarter. They probably were going down anyway at that point given it’s a three hour show, but three segments of that was one too many at best and that’s among the worst Raw quarters in 15 years. Well, until the quarter with Layla & Alicia Fox vs. Beth Phoenix & Eve Torres and Brodus Clay vs. Tensai, which lost 34,000 viewers and did a 2.43.

The final segment with John Cena, C.M. Punk and Paul Heyman gained 428,000 viewers to a 2.74, which obviously is a terrible overrun and the growth wasn’t good for that segment.
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:39 PM   #6175 (permalink)
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Mankind/Punk is the only good segment it seems. Even the overrun sucked (but people will say but it gained viewers, so what, overall it did bad)
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Most of the breakdown was "lost viewers". Terrible week for WWE in ratings. I doubt they will remain 3 hours for more then 2 years.
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Punk with 2 strong segments there, but that overrun is terrible.
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2 years? Too much. It will be gone less than that at this pace.
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:51 PM   #6179 (permalink)
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Welp, Bryan's career officially ended.

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Old 09-26-2012, 06:55 PM   #6180 (permalink)
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I think WWE's finally overdone the Kane/Bryan stuff and it's putting the fans off. Not surprising, it was bound to happen that they do it to death, but this quickly?

CM Punk had a great showing though. Two solid segments, but that overrun... not great.
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