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Old 09-26-2012, 01:17 PM   #6151 (permalink)
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NearFall, I will change only one thing in your match and that's giving Mayweather to Brock and putting Jose Mourinho with The Rock. Only because Rock/Mourinho was always my dream team.
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^^^^Why you wan't non-wrestlers having matches for? Dafuq is Ballotelli and Jose gonna do in the ring lol?

At this rate the only thing that can/will save him is a program with Rock and/or a proper Mania main event program with Brock/HHH/Taker. I don't know what else they can do to get the message across tbh. They've paired him with Cena, Bret Hart, now Mick Foley. What more can they do? What other legends are left you know? Austin? It's got to be the residual effect of completely ignoring him for 9 months of his 10 month title reign. They can't just undo what they've done during that time. As THE main storyline and focus of the show this past month, something isn't clicking.
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I want to see the interactions, you can put it on any TV show you want lol. Although, Mourinho and Balotelli are classic pro wrestling characters without even trying.

At this point, I don't want something to save them TBH, I hope they're going to drop even lower, 3 hours is just too much and the lower the rating, there's a bigger chance they will get it in the near future. And please not Lesnar/HHH for Mania, that would be a bigger waste than Rock in another match with Cena for 29. I honestly prefers Lesnar/Sheamus or Lesnar/Ryback over this. But they have two huge matches with Rock/Brock and Taker/Cena so of course they want to find a way to ruin it.

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At this rate the only thing that can/will save him is a program with Rock and/or a proper Mania main event program with Brock/HHH/Taker. I don't know what else they can do to get the message across tbh. They've paired him with Cena, Bret Hart, now Mick Foley. What more can they do? What other legends are left you know? Austin? It's got to be the residual effect of completely ignoring him for 9 months of his 10 month title reign. They can't just undo what they've done during that time. As THE main storyline and focus of the show this past month, something isn't clicking.
Honestly, the thing I have always come back to is the complete botch they made of bringing Punk back, FAR too early. The "leaving" with the WWE title should have spanned much longer. Many people, including myself thought he would be gone for 2-3 months or such. Punk even said he was promised time off. They could have built a longer storyline, with run ins from Punk causing big issues, such as costing Vince's "champion"(Cena, Vince says he is the only one that can solve the mess he made or a big-time heel, who Vince t...ts over Cena)matches(in favour of incredibly over babyface). Simple stuff like that, until later on Vince gets fired and then Punk returns at the end of a PPV where we see Cena win. However, WWE always like to pull the trigger early when they are sure of something. And again, this was the case. They decided to capitalize on the rematch and his overness as fast as they could.

As for the whole "LOL HHH BERRIED PUNK AT NOC" argument. As I have said before, that was another big mistake in the storyline. Not necessarily having Punk lose at NOC, but the entire balls they made of the afterwards. Punk apologises, and turns into John Cena lite. We saw during July-August how effective and over Punk was as the "edgy" babyface. Simply being Punk. As for the quick post-NOC babyface turn the casual audience were not getting fully behind this "edgy" Punk. Being a sarcastic and witty dick to the babyfaces did not mull over well with the casual audience, despite how much better of a character it was for him. I think the best measure here was to turn HHH heel and have him take the title from Del Rio and have the storyline be "HHH was the liar all along".

I think the entire reign he has had, and his entire treatment(of being 2nd place to Cena) since post-WrestleMania mo...., has left the audience with the idea of "meh". They dont lose anything if they dont care for him, as the pinnacle and most important part of the show was Cena. However by that time, Punk was not making as much money at all compared to Cena, his summer "spark" had been whittled out. They sadly had no choice but to place Cena above Punk leading out of Mania.

Is it too late for Punk? Who knows. He could find and rebuff his entire flare again. But what will it take? The only possible answers, that are possible in the near-future, I can see now are:
-Beating John Cena cleanly
-Feuding with The Rock
-Teaming with Brock Lesnar
We will just have to see how WWE executes this going further. But it is looking rather dim.
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Balotelli is so great as a natural, cocky no selling heel, he transcended the definition of "heel".



After the story that he won 25k in a casino and then gave 1000 to a random homeless just because he was there, you realize the level of greatness. All that without talking about wearing a Santa Claus outfit and driving around Manchester just randomly throwing money at people. I can appreciate the investment in the antics.

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I want to see the interactions, you can put it on any TV show you want lol. Although, Mourinho and Balotelli are classic pro wrestling characters without even trying.

At this point, I don't want something to save them TBH, I hope they're going to drop even lower, 3 hours is just too much and the lower the rating, there's a bigger chance they will get it in the near future. And please not Lesnar/HHH for Mania, that would be a bigger waste than Rock in another match with Cena for 29. I honestly prefers Lesnar/Sheamus or Lesnar/Ryback over this. But they have two huge matches with Rock/Brock and Taker/Cena so of course they want to find a way to ruin it.
It won't be HHH/Lesnar. I'm 95% sure that it won't be happening. Taker's streak matches are too big of a priority and if they do that he's left without a match. It isn't happening. Taker/Cena they are obviously saving for Mania 30 so that only leaves 2 options available. Cena/Rock II, Taker/Brock and possibly HHH/Punk.
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Honestly, the thing I have always come back to is the complete botch they made of bringing Punk back, FAR too early. The "leaving" with the WWE title should have spanned much longer. Many people, including myself thought he would be gone for 2-3 months or such. Punk even said he was promised time off. They could have built a longer storyline, with run ins from Punk causing big issues, such as costing Vince's "champion"(Cena, Vince says he is the only one that can solve the mess he made or a big-time heel, who Vince t...ts over Cena)matches(in favour of incredibly over babyface). Simple stuff like that, until later on Vince gets fired and then Punk returns at the end of a PPV where we see Cena win. However, WWE always like to pull the trigger early when they are sure of something. And again, this was the case. They decided to capitalize on the rematch and his overness as fast as they could.

As for the whole "LOL HHH BERRIED PUNK AT NOC" argument. As I have said before, that was another big mistake in the storyline. Not necessarily having Punk lose at NOC, but the entire balls they made of the afterwards. Punk apologises, and turns into John Cena lite. We saw during July-August how effective and over Punk was as the "edgy" babyface. Simply being Punk. As for the quick post-NOC babyface turn the casual audience were not getting fully behind this "edgy" Punk. Being a sarcastic and witty dick to the babyfaces did not mull over well with the casual audience, despite how much better of a character it was for him. I think the best measure here was to turn HHH heel and have him take the title from Del Rio and have the storyline be "HHH was the liar all along".

I think the entire reign he has had, and his entire treatment(of being 2nd place to Cena) since post-WrestleMania mo...., has left the audience with the idea of "meh". They dont lose anything if they dont care for him, as the pinnacle and most important part of the show was Cena. However by that time, Punk was not making as much money at all compared to Cena, his summer "spark" had been whittled out. They sadly had no choice but to place Cena above Punk leading out of Mania.

Is it too late for Punk? Who knows. He could find and rebuff his entire flare again. But what will it take? The only possible answers, that are possible in the near-future, I can see now are:
-Beating John Cena cleanly
-Feuding with The Rock
-Teaming with Brock Lesnar
We will just have to see how WWE executes this going further. But it is looking rather dim.
or they could just give the belt back to
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It won't be HHH/Lesnar. I'm 95% sure that it won't be happening. Taker's streak matches are too big of a priority and if they do that he's left without a match. It isn't happening. Taker/Cena they are obviously saving for Mania 30 so that only leaves 2 options available. Cena/Rock II, Taker/Brock and possibly HHH/Punk.
Yeah, pretty much the best 3 main events they can put together with the current roster.
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Then what about well after the boom was over in the 2000s and streams & technology were really coming into play? They were still getting 3s at WORST when they were competing with MNF, new fall shows, etc. Part of this time was when they were on Spike which from what I heard wasn't available to everybody in the country like USA is today, as well as SC and Rock both MIA. The NFL and other shows have access to what they can watch online as well. It's not an excuse.

Maybe when the product doesn't improve by the late fall and ratings are barely above 2.0(I know it's not too likely but still) maybe they will care.
Couple things NFL now is the most popular it has ever been. It wasn't in the time period you are talking about. That's kind of the same with the internet usage when it comes to wrestling hence why WWE is using the internet a lot more than they did during the time period you're talking about.

But the purpose of my post wasn't even "make excuses for why the ratings are going down" Was simply to point out why the ratings don't mean as much as they did back then. I don't even really give a damn about the ratings and never have as it does zero for my enjoyment or dislike for the product.
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