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post #6121 of 9131 (permalink) Old 09-25-2012, 07:32 PM
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Can be a ton of reasons why ratings go up or down but all that should really matter is if you personally enjoy the show good rating or bad rating. I myself enjoyed the show and will take that over a show that does a good rating yet blows.
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post #6122 of 9131 (permalink) Old 09-25-2012, 07:35 PM
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I wonder what the monetary difference between the numbers they were doing for 2 hours, and the lower numbers they're doing now, but for an hour more, actually is. I don't know how it works, but maybe the hit is worth it?
From their point of view it will be since they will no doubt be making more money from the extra hour every Monday. Just like having a top babyface that gets booed out of the building on some occasions and running a PPV once a month, all that matters to WWE is whats financially viable and then they worry about the fans that are unhappy with the product when they've got the time to spare.

WWE is an extremely well-run business & they deserve credit for that, but you have to wonder how much longer it will be before their mistakes creatively come back to haunt them and hurt them financially. As someone who fell out of love with company years ago, I don't see that happening anytime soon since they know what they are doing, but that doesn't mean that it will never happen. The one good thing about their current strategy is that by appealing to kids they are developing a whole new audience that might help their business model in the future rather than appeasing jaded 'Attitude' fans.
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The thing is if they focus on the stipulation of every match, people may wanna see it, but having random matches and it appears to be so predictable is just stupid.

Ziggler/Kofi the match wasn't bad but if it was a 2 out of 3 falls, people may wanna watch it.
Sheamus/Rey/Cara vs ADR/Otunga/Ricardo, really? How predictable atleast make it an elimination match.
Brodus Clay/Tensai and be interrupted by Big Show, just make it a triple threat instead of wasting our time.
Ryback/Miz not gonna complain but if it was interrupted by someone instead of Miz losing, the IC title is so useless now.

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The only thing that's left is that he actually loses viewers in his segments...

Of course they will gain because that's what the show is centered around and is the main draw. Thing is, it doesn't draw well at all and for all its gains, it still doesn't reach above the 4 million mark. Now I'm not saying all blame should be on his shoulders but he has more of a responsibility for bad ratings than someone like Kofi Kingston who wrestles a random match in the middle of the show.
Just keep in mind Punk's segments could very well be a fair bit over the 4 million mark, especially in the second hour where the overall number was close to 4 million. Punk could've gotten his regular average number where it's just the rest of the show that a lot of people tuned out during. If that's the case Punk doesn't deserve the (majority) blame for the overall numbers being anywhere near as low as they are. Granted if he was a bigger draw, he could've brought the numbers up but unless you have a mega draw like The Rock who plenty of people will keep the show on for any possible appearance, the overall numbers weren't going to be that much bigger.

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There's always some excuse, MNF, warm weather, cold weather, holidays, sitcoms, romcoms, dramas, NBA, NFL, NHL, CIA, FBI etc. etc. etc.

Maybe people just aren't interested in the show right now? Don't get me wrong, I thought it was a very good show but people need to stop making up all these excuses every time Raw does a bad rating.
Yep. They competed with football before and ratings were rarely this low. There is nothing to entice people to tune in. No huge storyline, no older megastars, nothing. Instead of blaming football or other crap blame the company for not producing compelling, entertaining TV.

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Personally, I thought this was one of the better shows of the three hour era since Raw 1000, but holy fuck that rating is terrible.

The third hour AGAIN loses viewers. It's hard to keep people tuned in when you only have very few interesting things going on to keep the fans hooked right now.

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WWE Raw on Monday, September 24 scored a 2.72 rating for all three hours and 2.70 rating in the standard two-hour timeslot. The overall rating tied with the May 28 Raw for lowest of the year when Raw was up against the perfect storm of Hatfield & McCoys, NBA Playoffs, and Labor Day.

- Raw averaged 3.79 million viewers, which was the smallest audience of the year and smallest since July 4, 2011. The previous low was also a holiday episode on December 24, 2007. It makes Monday's Raw the least-watched non-holiday Raw in over five years.

Raw did not top four million viewers in any of the three hours. The show followed the recent pattern of peaking in the second hour before declining in the third hour. For the second consecutive week, the third hour dropped below the new first hour.

Raw Hourly Break Down: 3.77 million first hour viewers (down 8.3% vs. last week), 3.99 million second hour viewers (down 3.1% vs. last week), and 3.60 million third hour viewers (down 8.2% vs. last week).

The third hour was the least-watched final hour of Raw in over five years.

- Raw's top competition was ESPN's Monday Night Football game, which averaged 16.2 million viewers. The game was up four percent compared to last week and was a tight game throughout the second-half up against Raw's third hour.

On cable TV Monday night, Raw ranked #4 in overall viewers behind the football game, post-game SportsCenter, and "Major Crimes" on TNT. It's not quite a Monday Night Wars, but TNT outdrew Raw with an average of 4.30 million viewers with the crime show.

Raw did rank #2 in key male demos behind the NFL game. However, the teen male audience dipped below programming on Cartoon Network and was down nearly four-tenths of a rating compared to last week's Raw.
Atleast they have an excuse.

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Bad rating.

Bad week though to get a good rating. Monday Night Football aside this is the week where we're seeing a lot of new premieres.

Strange how the third hour has totally changed the viewing habits.
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post #6129 of 9131 (permalink) Old 09-25-2012, 11:41 PM
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This show was built around Punk and he had almost an hour of tv time. Result = lowest rating of the year and the lowest viewership for a non holiday raw in 5 years... LOL

Obviously you can't blame one guy but Punk clearly is not someone that brings in ratings, and the show should not revolve around him like it did this week. Just goes to show how weak the roster is right now that a guy like Punk gets the amount of tv time that he does.

I feel like the reality era has been disastrous for the WWE. All of these promos like the one between Foley and Punk that are really serious and weave in and out of kayfabe do not entertain casuals. Casuals like humour and over the top shit, like austin and his trucks or the Rock cutting up an opponent. They don't want to watch a fake version of the UFC.
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Goddammit Phil.
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