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Old 08-29-2012, 05:39 PM   #5601 (permalink)
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So let's see here...

Punk/Lawler's opening segment seemed to do okay. Their match did well as that had 700,000+ viewers from their opening segment from what I can tell. It had the third largest number of viewers of the night, which I semi-expected as the 9PM segment has usually been in the top 2 segments since the move to 3 hours. I thought maybe Punk/Lawler would've still beaten it, but there was only a 70,000 viewer difference. HHH's segment as expected had the biggest number of the night, and while Wrestlingfan is right in his assessment that the fact Punk/Jericho wasn't considered a success but this will be by some is pretty BS. But yeah, HHH doing that well though is no surprise. It was an average gain, but still top number of the night.

Sheamus/Orton vs. Del Rio/Ziggler losing 500k+ is lol. That's the number 3 and 4 on the biggest current stars ladder losing 500,000 viewers. Now in all fairness though, it was after the show had peaked with HHH's segment, but if they were as big stars/draws as some claim them to be (Rock316AE ), they would've been able to minimize the loss to something like 200,000. However taking what I think of Orton/Sheamus' drawing ability, they did well considering the circumstance.

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Old 08-29-2012, 05:46 PM   #5602 (permalink)
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I'm not a guy that pays attention to ratings, but that HHH placement seems odd given that he was the biggest storyline going into RAW and it wouldn't surprise me if most people just tapped out and figured they'd watch the rest online after his promo ended. After all, it basically killed the live crowd.

Edit: Seems AJ's drawing.
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So Triple H gaining 200k to a 3.5 is a huge success. But when Punk/Jericho gained 200k to a 3.6, it was a below average gain that meant nothing. Oh well, I'm done trying to understand whoever comes up with these breakdown details and take them as I please.

Punk/Lawler did good for what it was. I expected it to bomb since, well, it really speaks for itself. But the opening promo from Punk built it up really well so I'm not too surprised. Sheamus and Orton in a tag team match losing 500k is ouch. Other than that not too much to discuss.

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CM Punk vs Henry the night after WM gained 200k for a 3,6 rating as well, but thats just nothing, below average. HHH gaining 200k for a 3.5 however is INCREDIBLE! You just don't understand the business son.

No, Meltzer is right actually. This is highest 10 pm quarter since 1000th RAW.

RAW 7/30 - Jericho/Christian vs Ziggler/Miz tag match at 10pm did 3.24

RAW 8/6 - Shawn/Brock/Heyman promo did 3.43

RAW 8/13 - Cena/Punk vs Show/Bryan did 2.94

RAW 8/20 - Kane/Ryder vs Miz/Bryan did 3.32

So its pretty clear since three hours became a permanent thing, the extra hour is hurting the 10 pm gain as Dave Meltzer has noted in the breakdown. Punk/Jericho was on a regular two hour RAW iirc?
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Very average numbers as expected. And the tag match losing viewers doesn't surprise when I really think about it. These four guys have wrestled each other a million times with the line-up switched around every week on Raw and Smackdown, it's no wonder people lose interest and just change the channel after a while.
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The extra hour may be hurting the gains, but not the rating for the 10PM slot. And come to think of it the 10PM's slots have been in the 200-400,000 gains since late last year at least on average. The only segments off the top of my head that had huge gains consistently in the 10PM slot were the Taker/HBK/HHH segments.
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I agree with Vyed.
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The extra hour may be hurting the gains, but not the rating for the 10PM slot. And come to think of it the 10PM's slots have been in the 200-400,000 gains since late last year at least on average.
No actually Jericho+Cena promo gained 800,000 viewers few weeks before RAW 1000 on a regular 2 hr RAW.

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True but it was also Wrestlemania season. Not the same thing.
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Ouch at two of the top three babyfaces losing more than 500K viewers. I know it was right after Triple H, but still. That's not good.

Ryback's streak of gaining viewers is over.

Very average numbers.
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No, Meltzer is right actually. This is highest 10 pm quarter since 1000th RAW.

RAW 7/30 - Jericho/Christian vs Ziggler/Miz tag match at 10pm did 3.24

RAW 8/6 - Shawn/Brock/Heyman promo did 3.43

RAW 8/13 - Cena/Punk vs Show/Bryan did 2.94

RAW 8/20 - Kane/Ryder vs Miz/Bryan did 3.32

So its pretty clear since three hours became a permanent thing, the extra hour is hurting the 10 pm gain as Dave Meltzer has noted in the breakdown. Punk/Jericho was on a regular two hour RAW iirc?
No, it was a three hour RAW. That RAW drew a 3.06. The same argument applies, really. The extra hour hurt the gain, but it still did a very strong rating.

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In the segment breakdown, the opener with John Cena, Edge and the contract signing that never happened started the show with a low 2.50 quarter-rating. Chris Jericho vs. Kofi Kingston lost 73,000 viewers from the opener while Jericho’s promo, Brock Lesnar & CM Punk videos plus the segment with Eve Torres and John Laurinaitis gained 52,000 viewers. Lord Tensai vs. R-Truth lost 3,000 viewers. Kane’s segment and Randy Orton putting Paul Bearer into the freezer gained 865,000 viewers – which were the WWE fans tuning into RAW at the normal time of 9pm EST.

Alberto Del Rio and Cody Rhodes vs. The Great Khali and Big Show gained 195,000 viewers while the backstage segment with Jericho, Laurinaitis, Eve and Teddy Long talking about CM Punk being drunk lost 112,000 viewers. Nikki Bella winning the Divas Title from Beth Phoenix gained 437,000 viewers, which can be seen as a big surprise. The field sobriety test in the ring with CM Punk gained 270,000 viewers to a 3.63 quarter-rating, which is one of the best quarters in a while.

Sheamus vs. Mark Henry with Daniel Bryan as referee and the tag match with Zack Ryder & Santino Marella vs. Primo & Epico lost 439,000 viewers. Kane putting Bearer back in the freezer and Abraham Washington recruiting the Tag Team Champions lost 370,000 more viewers. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger vs. Hornswoggle & Brodus Clay gained 225,000 viewers.

The final segment with Brock Lesnar and John Cena’s contract signing gained 873,000 viewers for a 3.83 quarter rating. The number was built up because they went 15 minutes past the time and fans didn’t tune out as they sometimes do for long overruns.
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Surprised to see Lawler/Punk doing below average gain with a cage match. I would expect a much bigger gain from a hyped stipulation Jerry Lawler match in the main event. But Punk even last week with Cena, did a below average gain so I guess that's as far as you can go with him in a major role in the segment. Not close to what Lawler did with Miz IIRC.

HHH doing the biggest is expected, it was by far the biggest attraction on the show with the most hype which is why the random tag lost that much after that. I imagine that the HHH promo also helped the match before because his segment started minutes before the top of the hour.

Other than that, nothing. I agree with Meltzer that people aren't going to watch 3 hours and it hurts what big time slots did in the past. Before that you had a lot of times, also with Show/Henry/Cena etc.

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Jericho, Cena and especially Big Show with a huge gain before OTL, all did big in that time slot. Before that you had a lot of big gain there with Show/Henry/Cena etc.

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