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Old 08-23-2012, 07:52 PM   #5481 (permalink)
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Hogan/Vince was by far the most promoted. In the week before the show, the main event slot changed every day between Rock/Austin, Angle/Lesnar and Hogan/Vince. In a Roundtable a year ago, JR said that Rock/Austin was supposed to close the show but with Austin's condition the night before, they thought it will be safer to deliver in the main event with Lesnar and Angle, crazy weekend with all the drama.

As for biggest in promotion:

1. Hogan/Vince
2. Rock/Austin
3. Angle/Lesnar - for this match, everybody knew that we're getting Angle vs Lesnar in the main event of WM19 from August of 2002, that was THE match for the background of the athletes alone. Combined with all the talk about their real mat wrestling contest in 2001(which Angle won BTW)and Angle's ON/OFF status for the match, they had a lot of hype.
4. HBK/Y2J above Booker/HHH because they started this with a teaser in December 2002, a great 4 months program while Booker just got his match on a battle royal after NWO(+ the stupid race angle they did with HHH).

This is Top 3 PPV of all time IMO, WM17, WM19 and Summerslam 2002.
The Lesnar/Angle build-up was rather badly done so I can see why it wouldn't have drawn as well as it should have. On SD, they had them in tag matches or Lesnar vs Team Angle every week and then teased a title match for no good reason even though it was going to happen at WM anyways. They centered SD three weeks before WM around Angle/Lesnar as main event and in the end, ripped off the fans by having Angle's "brother" hide his face there and be used to lure Lesnar. Such a pointless thing to do. But yeah, as 2003 went further on, Brock clearly became a much bigger deal and had 'star' written all over him once he turned heel again. It's too bad he left so soon, what sucks is he did it because he was tired of traveling all over the world only to wrestle the likes of Hardcore Holly.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:14 PM   #5482 (permalink)
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The Lesnar/Angle build-up was rather badly done so I can see why it wouldn't have drawn as well as it should have. On SD, they had them in tag matches or Lesnar vs Team Angle every week and then teased a title match for no good reason even though it was going to happen at WM anyways. They centered SD three weeks before WM around Angle/Lesnar as main event and in the end, ripped off the fans by having Angle's "brother" hide his face there and be used to lure Lesnar. Such a pointless thing to do. But yeah, as 2003 went further on, Brock clearly became a much bigger deal and had 'star' written all over him once he turned heel again. It's too bad he left so soon, what sucks is he did it because he was tired of traveling all over the world only to wrestle the likes of Hardcore Holly.

I don't remember the week to week booking of the feud but at that time Lesnar was really going to win the title in a short match on SD because Angle couldn't wrestle at WM in a main event match. Then when Kurt demanded to take the risk for the opportunity to main event WM, they changed the match to a teaser with Eric Angle. It was a crazy month of news for Kurt, every day it was ON and OFF, the doctors wouldn't allow him, he doesn't care, a scary chance to get paralyzed for the rest of his life or that it's going to be his last match. When they talked about all that, the earliest date for his return, if at all, was 2004. But instead he did an alternative surgery and came back in 4 months. Kurt gained a new level of respect from every fan with his performance at WM19 and the fact that he even wanted to wrestle, he showed his heart and passion for the industry like no other to the point where he even risk the ability to live a normal life just to perform in the biggest match of the year.

The problem at WM19 was mostly the 100% focus on Hogan and Vince(and the Seattle market according to Vince), they pushed it so hard everywhere. In every way possible, even taping clips of celebrities predicting who will win the match. The problem was that Vince, while a huge TV draw, was never a guy who can sell big PPVs for his matches.

As for the program, the best part started after WM, when they did the storyline that Brock of all people was the one who went to check Kurt's condition in the hospital after the surgery, then their awesome "friendly" skits together until the shocking heel turn from Brock in a cage match with Vince. Awesome chemistry, program of the year 2003.



Great time for SD in 2002-2003, best period in the history of the show after the AE.

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Old 08-23-2012, 08:18 PM   #5483 (permalink)
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Who the fuck cares if someone draws or not? Is Punk entertaining as a champ? Hell Yes...Are you a member of the WWE board/ a shareholder in the company? Hell No..Then what's the problem?
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Came into thread expecting same old shit.

Left satisfied.

Should rename this thread to "Gain or Lose viewers, Punk doesn't draw".
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i just sit at home and watch the tickets being sold off the ticketmaster website to see whos drawing

sometimes if the show is in town, i feel extra daring and go to the arena and watch them sell tickets IN PERSON

other day i started jerking off in the ticket both at all that DRAWING and had to be escorted out of the arena
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:22 PM   #5485 (permalink)
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Ah, its so nice to be able to just sit back and watch everyone tear apart each other, with Punk doesn't draw even when his segment gains numbers, Big Show is a ratings monsters, etc etc.

I'm glad I stopped caring about this company.
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:39 AM   #5486 (permalink)
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lol since when is Big Show a proven ratings draw?
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Ah, its so nice to be able to just sit back and watch everyone tear apart each other, with Punk doesn't draw even when his segment gains numbers, Big Show is a ratings monsters, etc etc.

I'm glad I stopped caring about this company.
Yeah, you just sit back and watch everyone tear each other apart while also posting in the same thread about a company you don't care about.
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How many times had Cena saved Punk's 97 lb ass?

Gave him the greatest match of his life at MITB 2011.

The only time Punk ever gains massive viewership is when Cena around.

Cena = MJ
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Let me ask you guys this, do you base your favorite wrestlers on guys who can/can't draw? I mean it seems like some of you that's all you care about, whether the guy draws or not. Some of my favorite Wrestlers like Orton, Punk, ADR are looked at on these forums as anti-draws, and is that a reason to just flat out "Hate" the guys because the Mass audience seems to dislike them?
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Let me ask you guys this, do you base your favorite wrestlers on guys who can/can't draw? I mean it seems like some of you that's all you care about, whether the guy draws or not. Some of my favorite Wrestlers like Orton, Punk, ADR are looked at on these forums as anti-draws, and is that a reason to just flat out "Hate" the guys because the Mass audience seems to dislike them?
You're the kind of Punk fan that will make that kind of comment when Punk does a shit rating, but will be all ready to throw a party when he does a great rating.
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