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Old 08-16-2012, 01:04 AM   #5241 (permalink)
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The show was hurt by strong cable competition, as it was only 6th for the night, including the first Monday night football game of the season (4.07 rating; 5.37 million viewers for Dallas Cowboys vs. Oakland Raiders). Usually preseason football doesn’t hurt Raw, as Raw traditionally does big August numbers and drops 10% or so in September against the regular season games. But preseason games also usually don’t beat Raw as this one did. The final episode of The Closer on TNT did a 6.8 rating and the debut of Major Crimes on TNT did a 5.5 rating, which are likely to be the two highest rated shows of the week on cable. There was nothing big on network programming. The debut of “Stars Earn Stripes,” a reality show promoted heavily on the Olympics, with Eve Torres, did a 3.05 rating and 5.24 million viewers, which is up from what NBC had been averaging (a 2.4) in that time slot this summer before the Olympics.

It was the lowest rated Raw since the 5/28 show did a 2.72 rating and 3.91 million viewers, which got killed by the Hatfield & McCoy mini-series and the Celtics vs. Heat NBA playoff game. The rule of thumb is not to overreact to one weeks rating, particularly when ratings were good the past few weeks. The three hours were 2.68, 2.89 and 2.98. Teenage boys did a 3.1 (up 11%), Males 18-49 did a 2.6 (up 4%), Teenage girls did a 1.5 (up 7%) and Women 18-49 did a 1.0 (down 9%). The skew was 70.1% male which means they were significantly down with women overall.

In the segment-by-segment, the promotion online and through social media that they were opening with C.M. Punk vs. Big Show led to a 2.60 quarter, the lowest quarter for a Raw episode in months. Ryback vs. JTG gained 63,000 viewers. R-Truth vs. Heath Slater gained 186,000 viewers. Sin Cara vs. Tensai lost 105,000 viewers. The Piper’s Pit segment with Chris Jericho, Dolph Ziggler and The Miz gained 516,000 viewers for the 9 p.m. start. You’d think by four weeks that wouldn’t happen, but it’s been ten weeks for TNA and it still happens. Jericho vs. Ziggler vs. Miz in a three-way lost 96,000 viewers. Backstage stuff with Shawn Michaels, John Cena and Punk lost 374,000 viewers. Eve Torres & Beth Phoenix vs. Kaitlyn & Layla gained 45,000 viewers. Cena & Punk vs. Show & Daniel Bryan gained 247,000 viewers to a 2.94 quarter at 10 p.m. Still not good for that time slot even with Cena. Christian vs. Damien Sandow lost 121,000 viewers. The contract signing with Brock Lesnar, HHH, Heyman and Michaels gained 431,000 viewers. The parking lot car accident and lights attack lost 394,000 viewers. And the in-ring angle where Lesnar “broke Michaels’ arm” gained 817,000 viewers to a 3.44 overrun.


INSERT X DRAWS, Y DOESN'T DRAW FOR THIS ONE SPECIFIC WEEK AND GENERALIZE A STATEMENT BUT FORGET THESE RATINGS ONCE NEXT WEEK'S SHOW ARRIVES.

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Or is it only the ones who go on to highly visible careers in movies that owe something? Why do Johnson (who left after putting people over, doing the traditionally "right thing") and Lesnar (who did not; except for making Eddie a legitimate star) get called sell-outs who "forgot where they came from" when someone who retires to do some regular job get credit (as they should) for moving on and making it without falling into a sea of addiction?
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:35 AM   #5242 (permalink)
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^ I expect an average buyrate for Summerslam.

That "car accident" had more touts than anything else btw.
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In the segment-by-segment, the promotion online and through social media that they were opening with C.M. Punk vs. Big Show led to a 2.60 quarter, the lowest quarter for a Raw episode in months. Ryback vs. JTG gained 63,000 viewers. R-Truth vs. Heath Slater gained 186,000 viewers. Sin Cara vs. Tensai lost 105,000 viewers. The Piper’s Pit segment with Chris Jericho, Dolph Ziggler and The Miz gained 516,000 viewers for the 9 p.m. start. You’d think by four weeks that wouldn’t happen, but it’s been ten weeks for TNA and it still happens. Jericho vs. Ziggler vs. Miz in a three-way lost 96,000 viewers. Backstage stuff with Shawn Michaels, John Cena and Punk lost 374,000 viewers. Eve Torres & Beth Phoenix vs. Kaitlyn & Layla gained 45,000 viewers. Cena & Punk vs. Show & Daniel Bryan gained 247,000 viewers to a 2.94 quarter at 10 p.m. Still not good for that time slot even with Cena. Christian vs. Damien Sandow lost 121,000 viewers. The contract signing with Brock Lesnar, HHH, Heyman and Michaels gained 431,000 viewers. The parking lot car accident and lights attack lost 394,000 viewers. And the in-ring angle where Lesnar “broke Michaels’ arm” gained 817,000 viewers to a 3.44 overrun.

That right there is all the proof you need. Even after a week long promotion through social media and other means, the WWE CHAMPION draws THE LOWEST QUARTER OF THE ENTIRE YEAR(I'm pretty sure it is). Hell even Ryback/JTG outdrew him by gaining 63,000 viewers over the shitty first quarter. Ryback is becoming a big TV draw.

I still dont understand WHY CM PUNK DESERVES TO BE THE LONGEST REIGNING CHAMPION IN YEARS? He clearly does not draw. What else has he done to deserve this massive push? Suck on Vince Mcmahon/Triple H's dick backstage? It use to be when the prestigious title was given only to the wrestler who could draw fans in thousands, when the wrestlers actually earned the title but now punk has completely killed the credibility of the championship.


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Old 08-16-2012, 05:36 AM   #5244 (permalink)
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Quarter Hours - August 13th, 2012
Q1 - 3.759 million
Q2 - 3.822 million
Q3 - 4.008 million
Q4 - 3.903 million
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Q5 - 4.419 million
Q6 - 4.323 million
Q7 - 3.949 million
Q8 - 3.994 million
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Q9 - 4.241 million
Q10 - 4.120 million
Q11 - 4.551 million
Q12 - 4.157 million
Overrun - 4.974 million

If you ignore hour 1 for a second, then the hour 2 'opening' with Piper's Pit actually did better than the 22:00 slot.

Also kudos to Sandow, since Raw 1000 I don't think I've seen him record a big loss once.

Overrun did well, although I've been plain uninterested with Lesnar/HHH/Michaels. Lesnar needed to take out Michaels before Monday and maybe even take out other DX members before beating HHH at SummerSlam.
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However you wish to look at it no WWE champion should be getting the lowest viewing nunber if the year under a week before one of the main ppvs. People will come in and make excuses for Punk as always. The guy has been given one of the longest reigns ever...You cant blame the wwe for him not being able to draw.
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It use to be when the prestigious title was given only to the wrestler who could draw fans in thousands, when the wrestlers actually earned the title but now punk has completely killed the credibility of the championship.

Putting the title on punk must be the biggest mistake made by the company probably in the last 10 years of WWE.
He hasn't been the selling point of WWE for months, which automatically killed the credibility of the title. Any feud he was involved in, would play second fiddle to whatever Cena was involved in. Once again, blind Punk haters stuck in Bizarro land.
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The divas draw again .This time with Layla and Beth back.
We have to taking into account that Layla never draw without Beth and Beth was the one trending.
Time for a new Diva Champion.
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I still dont understand WHY CM PUNK DESERVES TO BE THE LONGEST REIGNING CHAMPION IN YEARS? He clearly does not draw. What else has he done to deserve this massive push? Suck on Vince Mcmahon/Triple H's dick backstage? It use to be when the prestigious title was given only to the wrestler who could draw fans in thousands, when the wrestlers actually earned the title but now punk has completely killed the credibility of the championship.

Putting the title on punk must be the biggest mistake made by the company probably in last 10 years of WWE.
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I love the hypocrisy on this forum. Ratings are up? Oh it must have been Daniel Bryan or Mark Henry or whoever else is the flavor of the week. Ratings are down? Punk's fault. Without fail, a bad rating is dismissed as being the fault of Punk, my guess whether he's champ or not. Allow me to educate you.

-The WWE title has been so completely devalued that its not longer a main draw, taking a back seat to several superstars
-Punk himself has been devalued by constantly getting booked to be second and often third fiddle to whatever Cena and occasionally Hunter, Shawn or Taker happen to be doing
-The June 4th edition of Raw was John Cena's big return after being accosted by Big Show at OTL. The main event was John Cena vs Michael Cole (the infamous BBQ sauce segment). The show drew a 2.92. I guess by all of your logic Cena isn't a draw either.


I find it absolutely hilarious that people can convince themselves into hate. Just face facts and say you don't like Punk. Its your right to have an opinion. Whatever you hate, his look, his moves, it doesn't matter. But at least stop the blind hate and give a justifiable reason for your dislike. You come off as so much more credible when you do. If you choose to ignore certain evidence, that's your call. At least say "I guess the ratings drop isn't all Punk's fault, I still don't like him." You can't look at this bad rating and blame it solely on Punk, its not the least bit logical. Was he out there for all 180 minutes? Was he the main focus of the show? Were his actions what a major angle hinged on? No. So think realistically-how can a bad rating for all 180 minutes be blamed on one single guy who was out there for maybe 20? It can't be. And you're delusional if you think it can.

If you're desperate to blame someone for it, perhaps try Vince McMahon? You know, he's the one who runs all this stuff, supervises the shitty writing, supervises the atrocious booking, supervises the crappy commentary, pushes for the social media plugs, organizes the card so we have time for 100 commercial breaks, etc. My God, he was the one in Michael Cole's ear telling him to say how the Piper's Pit sucked. He's devaluing his OWN product.
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sometimes if the show is in town, i feel extra daring and go to the arena and watch them sell tickets IN PERSON

other day i started jerking off in the ticket both at all that DRAWING and had to be escorted out of the arena
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the divas outdraw punk
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WWE should have known better. Considering Punk's track record as a rating disaster in the past, why open the show with him? Makes no sense.


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Exactly why it baffles me why they let him open the show. Show vs Cena rematch could have done better as the opening match imo.

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