**The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here) - Page 516 - Wrestling Forum : WWE, TNA, Debate League, Wrestling Videos, Women of Wrestling Forums

View Poll Results: Do Wrestlers Draw, Or Does the WWE Brand Draw?

Wrestlers Draw 251 39.53%
WWE Brand draws 384 60.47%
Voters: 635. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread

Old 08-12-2012, 03:11 AM   #5151 (permalink)
Searching for a new identity
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: DMV
Posts: 5,762
#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push
Default Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

I still don't get why they're involving HBK. If he's not working then what's the point of them building a story between Bork/Michaels?
__________________
#Mark is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 08-12-2012, 08:40 AM   #5152 (permalink)
The human torch was denied a bank loan.
 
Quasi Juice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 7,564
Quasi Juice Quasi Juice Quasi Juice Quasi Juice Quasi Juice Quasi Juice Quasi Juice Quasi Juice Quasi Juice Quasi Juice Quasi Juice
Default Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

Quote:
Originally Posted by AthenaMark View Post
Rock/Cena disappointed because they made it about Cena and no one wanted to watch that. It was no surprise that the ratings went down when the promos of his started to go away from a dream match aspect and into a whining aspect that featured his played out rap character that no one had seen since 2005 or him trying to talk like an adult all of a sudden when he was apologizing full stop to Edge/HHH/Michaels and everyone else for years. Cena brought the Rock ratings down yet of course, the Rock fans brought the PPV buys through the roof.

Lesnar was paid 5 million and if he doesn't go over Cripple H in some form at Summerslam, it will be the biggest waste of time of 2012 by far.
He will go over HHH at Summerslam for sure. Summerslam will be the moment Lesnar gets built up again as a brutal beast. They are banking on him to draw big at WrestleMania, probably against The Rock.
__________________
Quasi Juice is offline  
Old 08-12-2012, 12:06 PM   #5153 (permalink)
Best For Business
 
Starbuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 19,682
Starbuck is new to the CHATBOX CREWStarbuck is new to the CHATBOX CREWStarbuck is new to the CHATBOX CREWStarbuck is new to the CHATBOX CREWStarbuck is new to the CHATBOX CREWStarbuck is new to the CHATBOX CREWStarbuck is new to the CHATBOX CREWStarbuck is new to the CHATBOX CREWStarbuck is new to the CHATBOX CREWStarbuck is new to the CHATBOX CREWStarbuck is new to the CHATBOX CREW
Default Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrestlinfan35 View Post
I wasn't directly comparing it to Rock/Cena, I was just saying it's a similar situation. There's a feud that was, like you said, probably the most promoted match in WWE history. It was still doing decent numbers, 3.5 overruns, but not something you'd expect out of a program of that magnitude. You'd expect better, obviously. Same applies here. Except what differs is the numbers this feud is doing aren't even decent. They're just not good. And oh come on, everyone knows the deal. 6 million+ people watched RAW 1000, they know what's main eventing Summerslam in just a few days. They know it's Lesnar/HHH. You don't need to advertise that they're on RAW because people assume the build up is going to be taking place. I doubt most people are thinking "Oh the match is in two weeks, but nah they won't appear or say a word until then." It's a crummy excuse. The feud is just not clicking, whether it be drawing-wise or storyline-wise, it's not clicking. Hell, the three way feels more like the SS main event than this does.

And I have no bias towards Lesnar lol. I'm entertained by him most of the time when his mouth isn't open. Who doesn't love just watching a beast do his thing. I'm just saying, he's not really been impressive since coming back, in terms of TV ratings. People can put the blame on him being beaten by Cena all they want, but really this started the week after he came back when the first segment drew embarrassingly low.
6+million people watched Raw 1000, they were advertised as appearing for weeks and when they did they got a very impressive number. The next week what happened? Absolutely nothing. That very clearly doesn't work and if you know anything about even basic marketing principles you would know that out of sight, out of mind. Then they didn't even advertise them for the week after and Shawn Michaels just randomly appears out of nowhere to top it all off. It's an absolute promotional mess and they numbers prove it. It isn't like Brock and HHH are there every week and people just expect them to be on the show like they can with Cena etc. He's a guarantee. Brock/HHH are not. If they want big programs like this to work then they need to let people know what's going on. If they know and still don't tune in because of the storyline direction, then you can call it a fail. And btw, I'm not trying to excuse anything because there is nothing to excuse. They didn't advertise therefore people didn't know therefore they didn't watch. Creatively it has been a disappointment because outside of 2 segments, the arm break and Raw 1000, they were very clearly filling time between now and back then. Ratings wise it has been a disappointment because outside of 2 segments, the arm break and Raw 1000, HHH and Heyman have been carrying things since Brock doesn't appear and when he does and something might actually happen, they don't advertise it. It's not as simple as labeling it a failure because 2 big stars haven't hit the mark every week. How can they when 1 of them is never there and when he is they don't tell anybody, they don't tell anybody his opponent is there and then they don't tell anybody about special appearances by beloved hall of famers either?

And what about the week after that when his segment drew 900,000+ iirc? He hasn't been the ratings monster that somebody like Rock is but he isn't a complete fail, he bumped up the ER buyrate and most likely will give Summerslam a nice bump too provided they pull their head out of their ass and start treating this the way that they should have all along.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AthenaMark View Post
Rock/Cena disappointed because they made it about Cena and no one wanted to watch that. It was no surprise that the ratings went down when the promos of his started to go away from a dream match aspect and into a whining aspect that featured his played out rap character that no one had seen since 2005 or him trying to talk like an adult all of a sudden when he was apologizing full stop to Edge/HHH/Michaels and everyone else for years. Cena brought the Rock ratings down yet of course, the Rock fans brought the PPV buys through the roof.

Lesnar was paid 5 million and if he doesn't go over Cripple H in some form at Summerslam, it will be the biggest waste of time of 2012 by far.
I know that and I've been saying it since it happened. We didn't get Rock/Cena at Mania, we got Dwayne/John and it didn't do anywhere near as well as it should have in terms of tv ratings of course. It still was a massively successful program financially because at the end of the day, people still wanted to see them go at it. On a substantive level though and as a huge mark for both guys I was highly disappointed with how the feud played out.
Starbuck is offline  
Old 08-12-2012, 01:23 PM   #5154 (permalink)
Moron
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 7,681
The-Rock-Says probably won't be missedThe-Rock-Says probably won't be missedThe-Rock-Says probably won't be missedThe-Rock-Says probably won't be missedThe-Rock-Says probably won't be missedThe-Rock-Says probably won't be missedThe-Rock-Says probably won't be missedThe-Rock-Says probably won't be missedThe-Rock-Says probably won't be missedThe-Rock-Says probably won't be missedThe-Rock-Says probably won't be missed
Default Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

Rock/Cena feud sucked and it was hard to watch cause they were doing this thing were Rock was an outsider Hollywood actor, (guy's an wrestling Icon, shouldn't of been trying to make him an outsider) while Cena was the great white knight, protecter of the WWE. As Starbuck says, it was more Dwayne/John, than Rock/Cena. People might be confused by that but there is a difference. But at the end of the day it has done 1,217,000 so far....highest grossing wrestling event in the history of the business. It was a massively successful, and that was what WWE wanted.
The-Rock-Says is offline  
Old 08-12-2012, 01:39 PM   #5155 (permalink)
AND YOU SHINE MY SHOES IF I WANT YOU TO
 
Rock316AE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 9,540
Rock316AE has made a name for themselvesRock316AE has made a name for themselvesRock316AE has made a name for themselvesRock316AE has made a name for themselvesRock316AE has made a name for themselvesRock316AE has made a name for themselvesRock316AE has made a name for themselvesRock316AE has made a name for themselvesRock316AE has made a name for themselvesRock316AE has made a name for themselvesRock316AE has made a name for themselves
Default Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

Megastar Brock was doing great segments in his return and after that. His interview on random slot gained huge, his contract signing did big overrun, the awesome video package gained all over the program. Now? It was simply WWE's fault, you don't tell your audience the special attraction is there, you're not going to get the extra viewers watching for him. + This program with HHH has that dead feeling in the air when you know that Lesnar is going to lose and be a complete waste.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AthenaMark View Post
Rock/Cena disappointed because they made it about Cena and no one wanted to watch that. It was no surprise that the ratings went down when the promos of his started to go away from a dream match aspect and into a whining aspect that featured his played out rap character that no one had seen since 2005 or him trying to talk like an adult all of a sudden when he was apologizing full stop to Edge/HHH/Michaels and everyone else for years. Cena brought the Rock ratings down yet of course, the Rock fans brought the PPV buys through the roof.

Lesnar was paid 5 million and if he doesn't go over Cripple H in some form at Summerslam, it will be the biggest waste of time of 2012 by far.
That was unbelievable because the moment people realized that this is just a series of attempts to get WWE's charity case over, they refused to support it, Cena was losing week after week, the more he talked the hypocritical BS, the more he lost. He was lucky that The Rock is such a monster force worldwide and the greatest money promo of all time that he was able to bring this program not only to "successful" level, but to "record breaking, iconic" caliber.
Rock316AE is offline  
Old 08-13-2012, 03:20 AM   #5156 (permalink)
Searching for a new identity
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: DMV
Posts: 5,762
#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push#Mark is getting a push
Default Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

Rock/Cena was hard to watch because Cena's a fucking square. If Rocky wasn't the well-mannered genuinely nice guy he is he would have buried Cena after that baseless comment about lines on his wrist. Seriously, Vince really had no shame. He did anything and everything to try to make John boy look bigger than he really is.

As for Lesnar, he's a proven draw. They hardly advertised him last week, I thought there was gonna be a pre-tape tbh. I guarantee a lot of others thought the same. Summerslam's buyrate will definitely be up; Lesnar/Hunter/HBK are all huge draws and will probably save a shit PPV (well, if Punk loses than not much can save it from being shit).
__________________

Last edited by #Mark : 08-13-2012 at 03:30 AM.
#Mark is offline  
Old 08-13-2012, 12:02 PM   #5157 (permalink)
Working on my abs
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,686
murder needs to make some friendsmurder needs to make some friendsmurder needs to make some friendsmurder needs to make some friendsmurder needs to make some friendsmurder needs to make some friendsmurder needs to make some friendsmurder needs to make some friendsmurder needs to make some friendsmurder needs to make some friends
Default Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

Cena/Rock, a disappointment?! Got the 6th biggest domestic buyrate of all time and the biggest including international.
murder is online now  
Old 08-14-2012, 02:53 PM   #5158 (permalink)
Working on my abs
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,763
D.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friends
Default Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

Hour 2 should be the highest hour by a long well. Commercial placement was a bit fucked up...
D.M.N. is offline  
Old 08-14-2012, 03:45 PM   #5159 (permalink)
Working on my abs
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,763
D.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friendsD.M.N. needs to make some friends
Default Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

Okay, I'm wrong. 3.795m, 4.252m and 4.354m....
D.M.N. is offline  
Old 08-14-2012, 03:58 PM   #5160 (permalink)
The Face Of The Company
 
dxbender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 18,346
dxbender is getting a pushdxbender is getting a pushdxbender is getting a pushdxbender is getting a pushdxbender is getting a pushdxbender is getting a pushdxbender is getting a pushdxbender is getting a pushdxbender is getting a pushdxbender is getting a pushdxbender is getting a push
Default Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

Maybe the finale of The Closer impacted Raws rating? It usually gets 6M viewers, but the finale episode got 9M(and the spinoff show which aired after, got 7M)
__________________
dxbender is offline  
Closed Thread



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios