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Old 08-09-2012, 01:48 AM   #5111 (permalink)
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On one hand, you could argue that the first two hours were fairly consistent as nothing drastic really happened. On the other hand, the fact that nothing drastic happened, even with segments that should have gotten monster gains, is an even worse sign. I don't know how to feel about this rating, but I can't find much that is good about it. Overall though, I did like this match-heavy show that also put focus on the midcard as well as the two main event feuds for Summerslam.
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:51 AM   #5112 (permalink)
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Horrible breakdown and not a good sign for Summerslam. Big Show/Orton and Lesnar/Heyman/HBK/HHH doing the biggest numbers as expected. Other than that, the main event shows that John Cena is not a miracle formula and needs the opponent. Bryan is not that type of guy which is why they drew so low even with the fresh match. On the other hand, you got Cena against Big Show, two proven draws and the two biggest in the company against each other for the 800 time in the last 8 years and it draws huge. For the record, I actually liked the Cena/Bryan TV match.

The number the HHH/Lesnar segment did this week is a perfect result of WWE's miserable promotion. Brock Lesnar, a mega star who is going to be on RAW only 3 more times this year is going to be there live and you're not even giving him ONE COMMERCIAL in 3 hours? HBK in his hometown is going to be on RAW for a rare appearance and again, nothing? Keep in mind that the shows did the same rating but Big Show/Cena attracted a much bigger share of the audience. The only thing I can say about it is maybe WWE are trying to sabotage this on purpose, unless, I underestimated their stupidity again, and after Cena vs Miz/Truth in November 2011 and Cena's protection in March 2012, I can't believe I'm even saying it.

On another note, Ryback is getting over big, not only live crowds, not only the chants, now the TV audience which is the most important factor. Maybe we're going to see a Goldberg/squash pattern(obviously not even close to Goldberg's level), it's 3 weeks in a row now IIRC.

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Old 08-09-2012, 04:30 AM   #5113 (permalink)
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Don't forget NBC had the Olympics on Monday, which may contribute to the dull breakdown with not many tuning in and/or out. Hence why there is nothing alarming, it's just, well, dull.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:31 AM   #5114 (permalink)
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Big Show/Orton and Lesnar/Heyman/HBK/HHH doing the biggest numbers as expected.
Big Show/Orton was 9pm, like Bryan/Sheamus was 9pm, IIRC Bryan/Sheamus gained 100k more than Show/Orton. Weak gains all around, hopefully its due to massive competition from the Olympics.
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Again, I don't understand why people base their favouritewrestlers on ratings and buys...do you do the same with music (record sales) and movies (box office receipts)?
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Again, I don't understand why people think that talking about ratings means that you base your favorites on said ratings. Basic comprehension fail. Do you see anybody doing that outside the retarded mark wars? No. This is such a stupid misconception and I have no idea where it came from.

Shit breakdown that tells us nothing. If they had promoted HBK turning up for a one off appearance along with Lesnar and HHH appearing too then this would have done much better. It's common sense. You don't advertise things then people don't know about them therefore they don't watch and you don't get big numbers, simple as that. They could have had Rock come out here and it would have been the same because they barely advertised it at all. Just ridiculous. It was still the high point of the show but that isn't saying much. They had better plan to promote the shit out of Summerslam this coming Monday and inject a nice shot of adrenaline into this feud or things won't be looking good come the buyrate.

I'm surprised that Bryan/Cena didn't do so well. Thought it would have popped a nice number since it's a first time deal and all. I still think a proper program between them will draw nicely. Seems like they made small gains throughout the first 2 hours which is about the only positive from this breakdown I guess. The third hour killed them though. After DX/Lesnar 600,000 people tuned out and only half of them came back.

On Orton/Show and the 9PM spot, last week the gain was just over 500k, right? This week it's just under 500k. I'll go ahead and say that 500k is going to be the normal gain for that timeslot then based on the info we have as of now lol. We'll be able to have a fuller picture as the weeks roll on.

So yeah, pretty meh breakdown and it just amazes me how WWE can go from an absolute monster of a promotional campaign for Raw 1000 and then 2 weeks later they completely fail to promote the selling point of their next PPV. It really is just ridiculous. Speaking of which, while Lesnar/HHH has nowhere near the hype it should, take it off the card and Summerslam looks like a piece of shit tbh. Biggest party of the Summer my ass. Punk/Cena/Show is so pedestrian, ADR/Seamus is boretastic and it looks like they're going to leave Rey and Orton off which is madness. In the span of 2 weeks we've seen such a dramatic drop in momentum and basic fucking marketing and promotion that I just don't even know anymore.
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Nobody does that. Why do people keep coming in here with that strawman?
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I base my fav's on ratings. That's why Blackman is one of my favourite's.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:36 AM   #5119 (permalink)
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Again, I don't understand why people think that talking about ratings means that you base your favorites on said ratings. Basic comprehension fail. Do you see anybody doing that outside the retarded mark wars? No. This is such a stupid misconception and I have no idea where it came from.

Shit breakdown that tells us nothing. If they had promoted HBK turning up for a one off appearance along with Lesnar and HHH appearing too then this would have done much better. It's common sense. You don't advertise things then people don't know about them therefore they don't watch and you don't get big numbers, simple as that. They could have had Rock come out here and it would have been the same because they barely advertised it at all. Just ridiculous. It was still the high point of the show but that isn't saying much. They had better plan to promote the shit out of Summerslam this coming Monday and inject a nice shot of adrenaline into this feud or things won't be looking good come the buyrate.

I'm surprised that Bryan/Cena didn't do so well. Thought it would have popped a nice number since it's a first time deal and all. I still think a proper program between them will draw nicely. Seems like they made small gains throughout the first 2 hours which is about the only positive from this breakdown I guess. The third hour killed them though. After DX/Lesnar 600,000 people tuned out and only half of them came back.

On Orton/Show and the 9PM spot, last week the gain was just over 500k, right? This week it's just under 500k. I'll go ahead and say that 500k is going to be the normal gain for that timeslot then based on the info we have as of now lol. We'll be able to have a fuller picture as the weeks roll on.

So yeah, pretty meh breakdown and it just amazes me how WWE can go from an absolute monster of a promotional campaign for Raw 1000 and then 2 weeks later they completely fail to promote the selling point of their next PPV. It really is just ridiculous. Speaking of which, while Lesnar/HHH has nowhere near the hype it should, take it off the card and Summerslam looks like a piece of shit tbh. Biggest party of the Summer my ass. Punk/Cena/Show is so pedestrian, ADR/Seamus is boretastic and it looks like they're going to leave Rey and Orton off which is madness. In the span of 2 weeks we've seen such a dramatic drop in momentum and basic fucking marketing and promotion that I just don't even know anymore.
I think with the 3 hour raws, the later segments are going to not have such dramatic gains. It wouldn't surprise me if people are exhausted by the time the main event starts, and won't be sticking around for the overruns.

Also, Olympics.
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I think with the 3 hour raws, the later segments are going to not have such dramatic gains. It wouldn't surprise me if people are exhausted by the time the main event starts, and won't be sticking around for the overruns.

Also, Olympics.
Based on last week that's not true since the overrun had a monster gain. I guess the main difference maker is that with Cena/Bryan, nothing was on the line but with Cena/Show, a shot at the title was on the line. And Show is a bigger star than Bryan I guess. That's the only thing I can see that's any different.

Besides, it's usually the later 2 hours that do better with 3 hours shows but that could change with that format now a permanent thing. We're just going to have to wait it out until we can see some patterns you know.
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