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Old 08-01-2012, 05:49 AM   #5001 (permalink)
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That's really not that bad. First hour is a lamb going to slaughter, though; it's almost surprising that Hour 1 even did that well.
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Big Dave on that Foley/Schiavone January 1999 accident we talked about a few months ago. The one that Vince is still obsessed.

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Amazing numbers, especially with the factors of availability compared to today Meltzer mentioned.

Goldberg/nWo doing that 2 million viewers gain lol.

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Old 08-01-2012, 07:32 AM   #5003 (permalink)
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Okay numbers at best. 2.8 was expected with the extra hour. As was the huge drop.

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Old 08-01-2012, 08:20 AM   #5004 (permalink)
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Heh. Well I'm also of the belief he isn't a standalone attraction at the moment. The numbers would indicate as such.

It's a short sighted stance to take when saying someone will never be a main attraction though. For goodness sakes things can change quite easily in the eyes of casuals depending on what you present them with. What's unusual is that in an era so deprived of alternatives to the top dog one would be so quick as to shut someone down who proved to be a successful commodity at least during one point in their career.

Frankly, it's a form of thinking that prevents the company from pulling the trigger on enough personalities, as well as continuing their current momentum or utilising them tastefully.
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While the big switch of audiences to see Foley win the title is much remembered, what is forgotten is that after Foley won the title, a Goldberg run-in on Nitro and Austin run-in on Raw were going on at the same time for the overrun. Goldberg saw Nitro bring its audience back, going from a 4.6 to a 6.5, taking many of those viewers back from Raw which went from a 5.9 to a 5.1. The growth of the final segment of Nitro, many returning after Foley had won the title, was an incredible 2.1 million viewers, among the biggest growth periods in history. Between the two shows on that night during the overrun, there were 8,642,000 homes and 13,827,000 different viewers watching wrestling. And keep in mind two other factors. There were only 74.5 million homes with cable on that night, compared with more than 99 million today. And going head-tohead with wrestling that night was the Fiesta Bowl game that determined college football’s national championship, which had nearly 30 million viewers.
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Heh. Well I'm also of the belief he isn't a standalone attraction at the moment. The numbers would indicate as such.

It's a short sighted stance to take when saying someone will never be a main attraction though. For goodness sakes things can change quite easily in the eyes of casuals depending on what you present them with. What's unusual is that in an era so deprived of alternatives to the top dog one would be so quick as to shut someone down who proved to be a successful commodity at least during one point in their career.

Frankly, it's a form of thinking that prevents the company from pulling the trigger on enough personalities, as well as continuing their current momentum or utilising them tastefully.
I know what you're saying, but to be fair, some people just never manage to click with the audience. Lex Luger is an example of this, they wanted to make him face of the company after Hogan left, but the audience just didn't care. We may have a similar case in our hands currently.

Hell, Cena himself has never truly clicked with the whole audience. He was extremely over at first and has always been loved by the female audience (kids joined in as his superman push started) but not all men were fans of his and slowly but surely, they turned on him. He had the misfortune of the hate bandwagon spreading fast so his overness turned into "controversy" (WWE's idea) but on the other hand, he's been a consistent seller of merchandise which has kept the boat afloat somewhere in between, rather than at the very bottom or at the very top.
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Saddest thing is in all the recaps they failed to mention HBK stuff next monday and a Lesnar appearance.

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USA network is who wanted the 3 hour Raw, so I hope they are happy with these #s b/c IMO that first hour rating is going to be the norm for that hour at least for awhile.
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Thats the key part there. 2 million is a huge gain but its not the same as today. Overrun gain today is basically viewers tuning in to watch the next show post RAW. But back then in peak years, overrun was largely wrestling fans switching back and forth between RAW and nitro. After Foley won, fans switched back to nitro thats why the gain is so massive.
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Thats the key part there. 2 million is a huge gain but its not the same as today. Overrun gain today is basically viewers tuning in to watch the next show post RAW. But back then in peak years, overrun was largely wrestling fans switching back and forth between RAW and nitro. After Foley won, fans switched back to nitro thats why the gain is so massive.
Those 2 million had to be watching either Raw or Nitro in the first place to switch to the other show. And why were they watching?! Why were 13 million people watching that night?!

Two years ago, when Impact was on Mondays, there were no 2 million switching channels, almost as if people cared for neither show.
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