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Old 01-11-2012, 11:21 AM   #481 (permalink)
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:27 AM   #482 (permalink)
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Punk is not a established main eventer yet. Its stupid to argue he should be the top draw, he cant be but he is trying, WWE is trying to make him that guy.

The problem is the shit Storyline cena is involved in. As per the popular opinion John cena is carrying RAW with his starpower but the truth is he doesnt draw as he used to. 2011 his drawing ability has taken a huge hit because of status quo, saved only by the return of the ROCK. But they are damaging whatever left of his drawing power by putting him in these comedy crap with ryder and shit storyline with Kane. I dont know what moron is booking this crap.

John cena needs to be in a better storyline that interests people, simple as that. I have no problem with punk dropping the title to cena again, if need be. Build punk to that level and then have him go over Cena clean. They did that with Orton before, why not do it with punk? Both these guys need to be protected, Punk shouldnt become irrelevant once he drops the title.
Kane is by far and away the most interesting storyline for Cena right now.

Which is the saddest element in all of this. They really can't do much better right now.

There's nothing there. Punk's been feuding with young upcomers (ADR, Ziggler). That's boring as Hell. Cena's feuding with Kane. That's boring. Jericho returns. That's boring albeit intentially boring. They try pushing the IWC superheroes and it gets the lowest main event in 11 years.

I don't what kind of booking you think is going to overturn this but it's not going to happen. The interest in wrestling is fading, period.
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:32 AM   #483 (permalink)
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Im assuming jericho's debut last week pissed alot of viewers off.
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I love how a low (or high rating for that matter) always falls squarely on the champion. I never understood that logic. Shawn Michaels was accused of not being a draw in 1996 when WCW took control of the ratings. But Good God! Look at both shows. On one show you had cartoon characters running around like Mantaur with a Shawn Michaels main event, and on the other, they were doing something revolutionary with the nWo. Which show would you watch? The champion can't be blamed for the entire show sucking.

And I'll use TNA as an example. So is it AJ's fault that TNA got their ass kicked by the WWE while he was champion? But wait, I thought Hulk Hogan was going to be the one to change everything and bring in new audiences, so shouldn't the blame fall on him instead of AJ?

Look at Monday's show. The main angle was the Kane/Cena storyline and it has been for the last few weeks, yet the low ratings are Punk's fault? Heck, they even switched Punk out of the main event segments & ratings are still basically the same.

MAYBE, the real culprit falls on creative. The show's are bad and people are turning away. Doesn't matter if its Punk or Cena who is carrying the strap. The show is still going to suck. Where WWE botched it is that The Summer of Punk should have led to a creative high & change of personality for the show and it didn't at all. They are right back to doing what they doing before the Punk shoot pretty much. Yeah, Punk is on top, but its still the same show, same cliches, same stupidity, same presentation. Nothing really changed.
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I hope this happen next monday

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Old 01-11-2012, 01:58 PM   #486 (permalink)
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Wth dude that's awful... but it would get some good ratings.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:14 PM   #487 (permalink)
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That was one hell of Fight.Can't Wait for Next Week Raw.
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Vince Russo is the voice of the one voice!(me).This man is truly a pipebomb.
As if they're the only two people to ever 'shoot'.

And I love how apparently that's the only thing Punk does, considering he hasn't 'shot' in four months.
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lulz so people still being butthurt because punk did a WORKED shoot my
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:47 PM   #490 (permalink)
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RAW doesn't "Fear Ratings" as Eric Bischoff said....

(Alot OF) WF posters FEAR Ratings!!!!
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