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**The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
For a list of the weekly rating dating back to January, please click here:

http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/2012-tv-ratings/

RATINGS BREAKDOWN FOR THIS WEEKS RAW 4/9

Raw on 4/9 did a 3.10 rating and 4.29 million viewers. The show was third for the night on cable. The show did a 2.4 in Males 12-17, 2.7 in Males 18-49, 1.0 in Girls 12-17 and 1.1 in Women 18-49 with a 69.3% male skew. It was down 21% from the 5.46 million viewers of the week after Mania show last year, and last year there was no bombshell along the lines of the Brock Lesnar return on the night after Mania show.

In the segment-by-segment, Brodus Clay & Santino Marella vs. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger lost 99,000 viewers.

Backstage with Laurinaitis with Miz an Cena, Marella looking for the Three Stooges and R-Truth vs. Cody Rhodes gained 255,000 viewers.

Lord Tensai vs. Yoshi Tatsu lost 415,000 viewers.

The mic work between C.M. Punk and Chris Jericho in the top of the hour segment gained 379,000 viewers to a 3.19.

Punk vs. Henry and the post-match with Jericho pouring beer all over Punk, as well as the quick Del Rio vs. Ryder match lost 169,000 viewers.

The Three Stooges in-ring segment lost 240,000 viewers and was the low point of the show at 2.90.

The Brock Lesnar interview gained 423,000 viewers.

And the Cena vs. Otunga match with Lesnar run-in gained 301,000 viewers, which is a very weak overrun number, finishing at 3.42.
 
#2 ·
Re: RAW "ItBegins" Viewership (02/01/12) - no boost

show was alright. Maybe ppl were pissed about how Jericho's return ended up happening and changed the channel. Punk and Ziggler was amazing, Bryan and Rhodes was very good. The last match sucked a ton though. Guess Cena closing the show doesnt help much does it.
 
#4 ·
Re: RAW "ItBegins" Viewership (02/01/12) - no boost

Here we go
 
#16 ·
Re: RAW "ItBegins" Viewership (02/01/12) - no boost

WWE has this many fans. Let's just accept it, folks.
That's the it of it right there. And apparently a good number of those fans are also fans of something else that comes on at 10pm on Monday nights. I honestly don't even know what is on other channels on Monday nights, other than Monday Night Football, which ended it's season on December 26th, so I have no idea what these people are tuning out to watch.
 
#12 ·
Re: RAW "ItBegins" Viewership (02/01/12) - no boost

What?



I'm legit stunned here. That's a ridiculously horrible number for all that hype. These quarter hours are going to be interesting as hell when they eventually get here I'm telling you and will no doubt tell the tale of what really happened here because I sure as hell can't explain it. That's got to be disappointing for WWE all things considered.
 
#18 ·
I'll be honest, I don't think it's the talent. WWE did this to themselves. For YEARS Vince McMahon has tried to make the name "WWF" (now WWE) the draw instead of the individuals. You go back and look at the territory days and you had posters with the headliners on them. THIS SATURDAY AT THE MURPHY WRECK, BOBO BRAZIL! Things of that nature. Nowadays it's all WWE Presents: and WWE Monday Night RAW feat. Superstars!

So now that people are losing interest in wrestling, they're losing interest in the WWE name, as a brand, and the whole company declines because of it. There's not a name in the company that can increase the ratings solely because in the end, it's just another SUPERSTAR in WWE.

Personally, I'm not enamored with the people at the top right now. I think Bryan Danielson is a great professional wrestlers but he doesn't fit to me in WWE. I like C.M. Punk as a talker but, much like Roddy Piper, I don't care to watch him wrestle. Give Punk a Piper's Pit and I might care. The Miz? Del Rio? Kane? Cena? I just don't care. So I'm not making this statement because I'm trying to make excuses for smark darlings or anything...I just think it's a different era. And I can't say that I'm sad about it. Put on bad TV you deserve the ratings to go down.

And let's not even talk about how antiquated the Nielson system is.
 
#25 ·
1.) The majority of today's fans (little kids) don't stay up past 10PM.
I don't think this is the case. The trend of the 2nd hour being lower than the first only started several months ago. If what you said is true, then the downward rating trend would have started a few years ago.

Steady numbers , I think this just proves the point that the WWE draws the viewer and not any specific superstar . That being said RAW was atrocious this week . I say better booking , better storylines will gradually pull in more viewers . My girlfriend watches soap operas here in Dublin , Ireland ,for some reason I was doing a Mick Foley impression typing that LOL , my point is she's watched them for years not for the charachters but for the storylines , as with wrestling the same as her soap operas charchters/superstars come and go , but it's the storylines that keep her and the viewers attracted to the show . I know the people in these shows play a huge part , but if your main commentator keeps telling the viewer how shit a person is that's a WORLD CHAMPION , maybe the viewer will start believing it . WWE'S main problem is not the superstars it's the people booking these superstars !!! AND THAT'S FACT
Y iz ur post @ll bold? Me cant readz it.
 
#21 ·
Steady numbers , I think this just proves the point that the WWE draws the viewer and not any specific superstar . That being said RAW was atrocious this week . I say better booking , better storylines will gradually pull in more viewers . My girlfriend watches soap operas here in Dublin , Ireland ,for some reason I was doing a Mick Foley impression typing that LOL , my point is she's watched them for years not for the charachters but for the storylines , as with wrestling the same as her soap operas charchters/superstars come and go , but it's the storylines that keep her and the viewers attracted to the show . I know the people in these shows play a huge part , but if your main commentator keeps telling the viewer how shit a person is that's a WORLD CHAMPION , maybe the viewer will start believing it . WWE'S main problem is not the superstars it's the people booking these superstars !!! AND THAT'S FACT
 
#23 ·
Did it really take this long for one ratings thread? Course I'd rather have them banned forever, but props to you Brye. You rock.

Anyway, yeah that's disappointing. But not surprising, these won't grow until after the Rumble. But of course this is all Punk's fault. They should stop showing him on screen for the entire two hours.
 
#24 ·
Thinking about it - was it really a good idea for WWE to embed the links inside the Twitter thing for many weeks on RAW? Let's take a look at the YouTube hit count for each of the videos - this is normally reliable, so no reason why it wouldn't be here:

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxGkXIphAHw <-- 443,186 views (November 21st - ItBegins2012)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN9FWb0zKm8 <-- 258,083 views (November 28th - second2012)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJoZV7lgxL4 <-- 159,956 views (December 5th - lookwithin2012)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNdd9W5__TY <-- 121,417 views (December 12th - 2012control)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBonwAcDwmc <-- 207,743 views (December 19th - prophetless2012)

The very first, direct, video has 443k views - to put it another way, that's 10% of RAW's audience. The December 12th video only has 121k, that's 3% of RAW's audience. Can you create a buzz from 3 percent of your audience?

Also, outside of wrestling circles, Chris Jericho is not a 'buzz' figure. Okay, he has his music career, but Fozzy is not a big band by any stretch of the imagination outside of wrestling and was not a main figure during the Attitude Era, more of a mid-carder (although this is probably a controversial statement).

EDIT - thanks Brye, have edited my opening post slightly so it's clearer for future weeks.
 
#26 ·
Ok... So who is left to blame? Almost the entire roster has been blamed at this point, Cole was blamed, Football was blamed, Holidays were blamed, uhhh... Is there anything else??? Next logical step is for WWE to realize their product overall sucks leaving their remaining audience looking in empty boxes for a fuck to give.
 
#27 ·
Why you made a ratings thread when it's a different rating and breakdown every week, and then nobody talks about it until the next number comes? Punk fans here are desperate, mods or not.

to the subject, Punk/Ziggler was in the second hour, Jericho was not advertised, so you can say that the concept of the "it begins" was nothing in terms of buzz and interest outside of the internet. football is over next week if I'm not mistaken.
 
#29 ·
So they lost viewers in an hour which had a heavily hyped return, that was built for months ending up being Y2J, the WWE title match, and a main event involving Cena (as well as generally big names in Big Show and Henry, as well as Kane being initally promoted in the match). Considering how crap the first hour was too.

Not good...
 
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