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Old 07-13-2012, 04:00 AM   #4561 (permalink)
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If Meltzer talked about the full quarter, I agree, I thought he was talking only about the opening segment.

But I don't see how you know how the number is dropping based on commercials in all the breakdowns you do, it's pure assumption unless you have the minute by minute, and from what I know. Nobody has it.
In 95 percent of television shows, the number drops for commercials. I've never known a TV show to increase its number for a commercial.

The only minute-by-minute breakdown I've seen in the past was for the Impact show in January 2010 which was against Raw.

Meltzer's breakdowns are based on full quarters as far as I know, except these reporters decide to lump entire matches/segments into one quarter only which is strictly untrue.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:02 AM   #4562 (permalink)
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Dave Meltzer is right.
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Of course ratings are dropping during commercials, no doubt, obvious pattern of the TV business and that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that it's impossible to calculate numbers based on assumptions on how much it grew or dropped, it's pointless IMO. We don't know where or how it grew/dropped and the quarter hours is all we have for now. Unless someone in the company decides to leak the minute by minute breakdown at some point. And if it never happened during the MNW, I don't think it's going to happen now. Even Scherer who was the first guy posting back then and Meltzer who is the first guy posting in the last few years don't have it from what I know.
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I forgot to add Macho Man and Liz in the list of wedding angles.

If you want some history of that segment:

Test/Stephanie - Started 6.3, grew to a 7.3 overrun, peak of the show. Overall - 6.5
Kane/Lita - Started 4.0, grew to a 4.9 overrun, peak of the show and biggest quarter in a long time at that time. Overall - 3.6
Edge/Lita - 4.5 at the top of the hour, peak of the show. Overall - 3.9
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So...

Lesnar draws in the adult males.

AJ draws in the teenage males.

Triple H draws in everybody.

John Cena has ceased to draw anybody, the well has run dry.

The Rock loses viewers.

CM Punk can't draw.

Jerry Lawler finally lost his drawing powers.

Michael Cole is now an anti-draw.

Stephanie draws like nobody in this great business of ours and is a TV ratings machine--they should air a four-hour Steph Special on Super Bowl Sunday against the Super Bowl on USA Network with her starring in a WWE-produced USA Network TV miniseries called Loathsome Love where she lives on the prairie in the early 1880s and Triple H plays her cattle baron husband and Kane plays a masked man from Triple H's past (revealed in the final minutes in a Sergio Leone-inspired flashback sequence set to bone-chilling harmonica that Trips violated Kane's deceased adolescent sweetheart on Boot Hill), ends with Steph slapping Trips and Kane shooting Triple H to pieces and riding off with Stephanie into the sunset--and they'd beat the Super Bowl in the ratings BY GAWD.
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What do people think the rating will be for Raw 1000?

The fact they seem to be hyping it more then the upcoming PPV seems to suggest Vince wants this to do really big numbers. And with so much star power on the show it could balance out the vierwership throughout the show instead of the usual gains/losses.Although they seem to be lacking any momentum storyline wise to help attract viewers that way.

I'm going to go around a 3.8
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For RAW 1000th, I can see a 3.5-3.6, 3.7 at best. With 2-3 segments doing above 4.0. So much star power, you can throw mega star after mega star, it's crazy. Vince then Bret then Foley then Flair then Taker then Cena then Show/Jericho/Kane then Brock then DX then Austin then Rock etc, this show has the potential to hold the viewers for the entire 3 hours if they book it the right way.
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I forgot to add Macho Man and Liz in the list of wedding angles.

If you want some history of that segment:

Test/Stephanie - Started 6.3, grew to a 7.3 overrun, peak of the show. Overall - 6.5
Kane/Lita - Started 4.0, grew to a 4.9 overrun, peak of the show and biggest quarter in a long time at that time. Overall - 3.6
Edge/Lita - 4.5 at the top of the hour, peak of the show. Overall - 3.9
I remembered my mom, who isn't a wrestling fan, stopping by to watch that Test/Stephanie wedding with my old buds. Then Trips ruined the whole thing and she kept laughing at it, ridiculing me afterwards for how fake the wedding gimmick was. Good times.
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So...

Lesnar draws in the adult males.

AJ draws in the teenage males.

Triple H draws in everybody.

John Cena has ceased to draw anybody, the well has run dry.

The Rock loses viewers.

CM Punk can't draw.

Jerry Lawler finally lost his drawing powers.

Michael Cole is now an anti-draw.

Stephanie draws like nobody in this great business of ours and is a TV ratings machine--they should air a four-hour Steph Special on Super Bowl Sunday against the Super Bowl on USA Network with her starring in a WWE-produced USA Network TV miniseries called Loathsome Love where she lives on the prairie in the early 1880s and Triple H plays her cattle baron husband and Kane plays a masked man from Triple H's past (revealed in the final minutes in a Sergio Leone-inspired flashback sequence set to bone-chilling harmonica that Trips violated Kane's deceased adolescent sweetheart on Boot Hill), ends with Steph slapping Trips and Kane shooting Triple H to pieces and riding off with Stephanie into the sunset--and they'd beat the Super Bowl in the ratings BY GAWD.
I'd watch that tbh. Sounds awesome.

And Rocky, you forgot the Steph/HHH wedding vow renewal too, the one in the video this week. I'm sure it did well since a video package about it 10 years later brings DEM GAINS.

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