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Old 07-11-2012, 09:18 AM   #4501 (permalink)
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Ratings do not dictate the quality of the product, though arguably the current product we watch is pretty bad judging last RAW. Regardless, i don't even understand why this thread is here in the first place, ratings shouldn't matter to any of us, we are the fans that should enjoy or loathe the product, whatever you choose, we just watch for entertainment.
To me ratings, buy rates, merchandise, etc are apart of an interesting overall concept to get one's teeth into. In particular, when this approach becomes a part of deeper discussions based on how one's favourites are being received by fans, how they are/should be utilised by companies, as well the appeal of certain characters or personalities as opposed to others (past, present comparisons and all that).

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Tidbits like this are quite worrying. Particularly when they are coming from smart-alec fans professing something as gospel that people (fellow fans) should flock to.
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Old 07-11-2012, 05:19 PM   #4502 (permalink)
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I need confirmation but it seems RAW this week got 3.2

It's official, they can do whatever they want.
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I need confirmation but it seems RAW this week got 3.2

It's official, they can do whatever they want.
As long as John Cena is on the show they will draw. It doesn't matter that everything else is garbage and that AJ/Punk/Bryan are currently making the worst feud in wrestling HISTORY - John Cena is THAT big of a star and THAT popular that people will always watch while he's there. The one time he wasn't on the show this year the ratings plummeted to worrying levels and that says it all. Unfortunately Cena is the only megastar in the land right now and if he were to get injured they would be screwed to hell. They need Orton back in the main-event because he's the #2 guy and the only other active guy who can carry the brand.

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As long as John Cena is on the show they will draw. It doesn't matter that everything else is garbage and that AJ/Punk/Bryan are currently making the worst feud in wrestling HISTORY - John Cena is THAT big of a star and THAT popular that people will always watch while he's there. The one time he wasn't on the show this year the ratings plummeted to worrying levels and that says it all. Unfortunately Cena is the only megastar in the land right now and if he were to get injured they would be screwed to hell. They need Orton back in the main-event because he's the #2 guy and the only other active guy who can carry the brand.
I agree that this Storyline is one of the worst in history, but your logic is stupid. Why would people watch the parts of the show that John Cena isn't on just because John Cena is a draw?
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If there was a key to the Raw rating, the tease that A.J. was going to marry the person she left the ring with worked. The gain of 711,000 viewers for the overrun is normal level (a good 3.61 overrun), but this was done without John Cena in the segment, and with C.M. Punk and Daniel Bryan, who have never moved ratings big. Plus, there was gigantic increase in teenage boys watching for the overrun only that wasnít there for the rest of the show. That demo hovered between a 2.7 and 3.2 rating the entire show, but hit a 4.4 for the overrun. Overrun growth was 3.2 to 4.4 in that demo, 2.5 to 3.1 in Males 18-49, 1.2 to 1.4 in Girls 12-17 and stayed at 1.1 with Women 18-49. It should be noted that itís the marrying gimmick and not the personalities since A.J., Punk nor Bryan spiked ratings in that demo in their interview segment this week or any other week in this storyline. Whether itís a sign of things to come, or something meaningless where the tease of a marriage sparked interest that isnít going to sustain will be determined in the future.

As far as comparisons to the week before, Boys 12-17 did a 3.1 (up 3%, all due to the overrun), Males 18-49 did a 2.5 (same as last week), Girls 12-17 did a 1.1 (down 8%) and Women 18-49 did a 1.1 (down 15%). Thatís also notable because the wedding teases usually inflates the female audience more than the men, plus Home Run Derby figured to hurt among men, not women. The male skew was 67.4%. Raw was in 5th place for the night on cable.

For quarters, the long opening monologue with A.J., Punk and Bryan along with Sheamus vs. Jack Swagger lost 74,000 viewers. Christian & Tyson Kidd vs. Tensai & Dolph Ziggler and the Lawler vs. Cole angle building their match lost 416,000 viewers. Brodus Clay vs. Drew McIntyre plus Stephanie McMahon talking about the angle where she and HHH were to renew their vows gained 102,000 viewers. John Cena & Kane vs. Big Show & Chris Jericho gained 66,000 viewers, which is not good for that time period. What happened is they did about a 280,000 gain at 10 p.m., which is lower than usual, but then lost those viewers when the match went longer and went through the second break. Heath Slater vs. Sin Cara and his angle with Bob Backlund lots 21,000 viewers. Lawler vs. Cole and the Hornswoggle as General Manager reveal also lost 21,000 viewers.

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A note regarding updated universes of the various cable stations. With people very slowly switching away from satellite and dishes, there has been a small drop, not enough yet to really matter but it is a worrisome trend.

As of the end of June, the USA Network was available in 99,301,000 homes, which is 86.6% of the homes in the U.S. They peaked at nearly 101 million a year ago. Almost every station has shown similar declines. Spike TV is in 98,623,000 homes after peaking at more than 100 million. We donít have a number for FX, but itís in the 98.5 million range. Syfy is in 98,006,000 homes. MTV 2 is in about 75 million homes and Fuel is in 36.2 million homes.


Analyses of the breakdowns are a little questionable. Great to see that Bryan/Punk/AJ are sustaining and gaining viewers.

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Old 07-12-2012, 07:08 AM   #4506 (permalink)
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Get Steph and Hunter back on the show for another marriage. That should do the trick lol since their video package did well. Great overrun number and I agree that the tease of a marriage was what drew people in. I think this is the first time a Punk segment (bar that one Johnny promo) has gained such a big number without Cena/Vince/HHH there to help. This time it was AJ who helped!! Lol. It's strange that teen boys tuned in for a potential wedding rather than females though who actually dropped. You would expect those numbers to be the other way round which is quite surprising to me. Is that a statement upon the teenage boys of America lol? I don't know but if it is it surely can't be a good one, haha! The 10pm number is rather shitty too considering who was in it. All in all a rather bad breakdown. They just kept losing and losing viewers until the end pretty much. Back to normal I guess.
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DAMN, A Cena Segment gaining that Poorly? LOL LOL LOL
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Cena's amazing drawing power was offset by the giant, the fairy and the monster.
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There's an error in the breakdown provided somewhere, so I've balanced it out, so below hour 1 is slightly higher than what it should be with hour 2 slightly lower than what it should be:

Quarter Hours - July 9th, 2012
Q1 - 3.33 rating / 4.60 million
Q2 - 3.28 rating / 4.53 million
Q3 - 2.98 rating / 4.11 million
Q4 - 3.05 rating / 4.21 million
Q5 - 3.20 rating / 4.49 million
Q6 - 3.09 rating / 4.34 million
Q7 - 3.08 rating / 4.32 million
Q8 - 3.06 rating / 4.30 million
Overrun - 3.61 rating / 5.01 million

So, using 10 percent as per usual:

Q1 - 4.60 million (0.00 gain) <-- no commercials
Q2 - 4.75 million (0.23 gain) <-- 5 minutes stripped out; Opening Segment end, Sheamus vs Jack Swagger, Santino and Ryder backstage
Q3 - 4.38 million (0.27 gain) <-- 6 minutes stripped out; Christian/Kidd vs Ziggler/Tensai, Cole and King arguing, Brodus Clay vs Drew McIntyre
Q4 - 4.32 million (0.11 gain) <-- 3 minutes stripped out; Brodus Clay vs Drew McIntyre, Santino, Jericho and Show backstage, Raw 1000th moment, Cena promo
Q5 - 4.66 million (0.16 gain) <-- 4 minutes stripped out; Cena/Kane vs JeriShow
Q6 - 4.56 million (0.22 gain) <-- 5 minutes stripped out; Cena/Kane vs JeriShow, Opening Segment recap, Punk and Eve backstage, Khali and Santino backstage
Q7 - 4.61 million (0.29 gain) <-- 6 minutes stripped out; Sin Cara vs Heath Slater, Bob Backlund return, Michael Cole vs Jerry Lawler Poll result
Q8 - 4.46 million (0.16 gain) <-- 4 minutes stripped out; Michael Cole vs Jerry Lawler, 'No Holds Barred' promo, Punk and AJ vs Bryan and Eve start
Overrun - 5.01 million (0.00 gain) <-- no commercials (obviously)
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