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post #4291 of 9175 (permalink) Old 06-26-2012, 07:42 PM
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Big johnny character is gone and ratings increases. Coincidence?
But they're returning to where they were. People like unpredictability. Big John getting fired started that but unfortunately Vince slipped right back into the same old pattern with Cena talking about wanting the WWE title and entering MITB. A friend of mine was watching with me (this guy hates wrestling and knows little about it) but as soon as Cena said he was entering MITB my friend said, "So they're giving 'him' the title yet again I see." Even non-fans are sick of Cena with the belt. Unpredictability goes right out the window.

Cena should be like Shawn Micheals. That guy would occasionally challenge for the belt but never win it because he knew he didn't need it. Neither does Cena. Only Cena doesn't seem to get that like Michaels did.
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post #4292 of 9175 (permalink) Old 06-26-2012, 07:43 PM
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I think we all know who to thank for the fact that this rating was above a 2.9




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Cena would be the ideal first-time-ever briefcase-holder who cashes in (honorably, natch) and goes on to lose (to Punk at Summerslam?!). He's completely bulletproof, it wouldn't harm him in the least and it could be a major step in bringing back the Cena of those four weeks between Wrestlemania and Extreme Rules rather than the Cena who's appeared ever since that time. His resentment toward Punk and the burning desire to retake the WWE Championship and actually defeat The Rock could create--gasp!--a potentially compelling Cena again.

This also practically reduces the overreliance on Money in the Bank to "create stars," which it hardly ever does anymore. Recently only The Miz and Daniel Bryan (in the last 15-20% of his run with the briefcase) have actually gained anything from having the damned thing. For guys like Jack Swagger and Alberto Del Rio, the briefcase did nothing for them in the end.

Maybe a Dolph Ziggler or a Cody Rhodes or even a returning Wade Barrett can take the other briefcase for the WHC and be given a gradual, long-term build with it going into the fall. Will be interested to see if the person holding that briefcase doesn't stumble right back into the midcard muck only months afterward. Odds are, yes, lol.

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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

Chris Jericho's return definitely helped ratings
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Great rating as this week's show was good. It was well deserved and I hope it continues to stay in this range and not the 2.9's.


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But they're returning to where they were. People like unpredictability. Big John getting fired started that but unfortunately Vince slipped right back into the same old pattern with Cena talking about wanting the WWE title and entering MITB. A friend of mine was watching with me (this guy hates wrestling and knows little about it) but as soon as Cena said he was entering MITB my friend said, "So they're giving 'him' the title yet again I see." Even non-fans are sick of Cena with the belt. Unpredictability goes right out the window.

Cena should be like Shawn Micheals. That guy would occasionally challenge for the belt but never win it because he knew he didn't need it. Neither does Cena. Only Cena doesn't seem to get that like Michaels did.
This is a great point. I think the recent ratings has ALOT to do with the "unpredictability" of what was going to happen with and after the firing of Big Johnny. And to me Cena being the focus is going to get WAY to much of the credit by the WWE for the good rating. Now I am not saying he doesn't deserve any of the credit b/c he does, just not as much as I think hes going to get by the WWE. IF Cena wins MITB and then wins the title at SS, after HHH/Lesnar is done at SS and Cena is the champ again wheres the "unpredicitability coming in the shows then?

Quoted poster is spot on here, the time to start having Cena helping get new guys over as "top" guys that fans will pay to see is now or sooner rather than later. And how the WWE "Can't See This" is beyond me. Seriously, look at it, Punk is the one full-time guy that Cena can feud with that would put ANY doubt in the outcomne of the feud and even then we are all still pretty much certain that Cena will win the feud.


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As an interesting aside, if the Cena and Jericho segment did over 5 million viewers, wouldn't that be the highest rated Jericho segment since his return in January? Even his return only did 4.5 million if I recall.
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Cena would be the ideal first-time-ever briefcase-holder who cashes in (honorably, natch) and goes on to lose (to Punk at Summerslam?!). He's completely bulletproof, it wouldn't harm him in the least and it could be a major step in bringing back the Cena of those four weeks between Wrestlemania and Extreme Rules rather than the Cena who's appeared ever since that time. His resentment toward Punk and the burning desire to retake the WWE Championship and actually defeat The Rock could create--gasp!--a potentially compelling Cena again.

This also practically reduces the overreliance on Money in the Bank to "create stars," which it hardly ever does anymore. Recently only The Miz and Daniel Bryan (in the last 15-20% of his run with the briefcase) have actually gained anything from having the damned thing. For guys like Jack Swagger and Alberto Del Rio, the briefcase did nothing for them in the end.

Maybe a Dolph Ziggler or a Cody Rhodes or even a returning Wade Barrett can take the other briefcase for the WHC and be given a gradual, long-term build with it going into the fall. Will be interested to see if the person holding that briefcase doesn't stumble right back into the midcard muck only months afterward. Odds are, yes, lol.
Pretty much. I'd like to see DB win at MITB just because I think their last chance to put the belt on him while he's still hot/reputable. If he loses again he becomes Christian circa 2011. But I agree with you about Cena. Either way, he can cash it in for a match at SS, lose, and not be harmed by it whatsoever. It'll also get one of the MITB holders out of the way early, which has unfortunately become sort of a necessity ever since they started having two seperate briefcases.
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Far from a "great rating", you can call it decent after the 2.7-2.9s they were doing but that's it. Vince/Show/Cena/Ace angle gave them a boost for a few weeks but now it's back to normal which today is the horrible 2.9-3.0 levels.
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Cena/Jericho promo and the bikini battle royal obviously contributed to the strong second hour.
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