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Old 06-18-2012, 11:12 PM   #4181 (permalink)
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I just picked what came up on google image search. The only filtering I did was to make sure the pictures I chose were not too big or small.

Type those names in on google image search for yourself and you'll see practically the same pattern. The current roster look jolly, colourful and fake; whereas the old stars look tough and intimidating.
Many of those old stars stuck around and can still be seen wrestling these days. Interestingly enough, one of those guys got his big break in 2004 after having his look altered from the one you posted.

You mention the importance of image and I completely agree that it's a key selling point for the business. The notion of look is not limited to the physique, but also the presentation of their character; namely strengths, individuality and their placement in a particular story. Creating a compelling image and personality is paramount. Of course believability is important, but that is also a result of adequate booking that cements the position in the eyes of viewers.

I think Batista was the beneficiary of fantastic booking and great backing, particularly in his fued with Evolution which saw him rise through to the Main Event . That's not a knock on him as a performer personally, even though I don't care much for his talents. He is an important example of the role playing up the strengths of a performer (even if they may only be marginal) and fully accentuating them through the character's image. His physique was important in establishing his 'toughness', but his overall image was the thing that stood out in the minds of viewers. Remember the tweaks in his attire as he became heel later on? His image became a little more outlandish and attention-grabbing which worked well into his prima donna- esque attitude.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:24 PM   #4182 (permalink)
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I really hope quarterly ratings are posted. Will love to see the rating drop for the promo with slater,piper and those 2 other ppl
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:00 AM   #4183 (permalink)
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Estimated timings...

21:00 to 21:13 - Opening Segment (13 minutes)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
21:17 to 21:22 - Sheamus/Punk vs Kane/Bryan (5 minutes)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
21:26 to 21:35 - Sheamus/Punk vs Kane/Bryan (9 minutes)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
21:39 to 21:42 - Vickie/Dolph/Swagger backstage, Laurinitis/Otunga/Show backstage (3 minutes)
21:42 to 21:49 - Dolph vs Swagger (7 minutes)
21:49 to 21:50 - Triple H/No Way Out promo (1 minute)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
21:54 to 21:57 - Raw 100th moment (3 minutes)
21:57 to 22:10 - Triple H/Heyman segment (13 minutes)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
22:14 to 22:20 - Del Rio vs Santino (6 minutes)
22:20 to 22:22 - Cyndi Lauper hype (2 minutes)
--> commercial [3 minutes]
22:25 to 22:36 - Lauper segment (11 minutes)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
22:40 to 22:46 - Primetime Players vs Primo and Epico (6 minutes)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
22:50 to 22:51 - Raw 1000th promo (1 minute)
22:51 to 22:54 - Laurinitis promo (3 minutes)
--> commercial [3 minutes]
22:57 to 23:11 - Handicap match (14 minutes)

I genuinely hope that hour two is not higher than hour one. If it is higher, I hope it's because of Triple H and Heyman, and not because of Cena.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:57 AM   #4184 (permalink)
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I seriously don't understand how someone can supposedly be a fan of wrestling and not care what the match looks like. Even when I was 7 I still cared.
Do you mean match quality or Big men in a match to make it seem more like a real fight?
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You're the man, D.M.N. Thanks for posting that. And I agree with you on that last sentence.
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:04 PM   #4186 (permalink)
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Estimated timings...

21:00 to 21:13 - Opening Segment (13 minutes)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
21:17 to 21:22 - Sheamus/Punk vs Kane/Bryan (5 minutes)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
21:26 to 21:35 - Sheamus/Punk vs Kane/Bryan (9 minutes)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
21:39 to 21:42 - Vickie/Dolph/Swagger backstage, Laurinitis/Otunga/Show backstage (3 minutes)
21:42 to 21:49 - Dolph vs Swagger (7 minutes)
21:49 to 21:50 - Triple H/No Way Out promo (1 minute)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
21:54 to 21:57 - Raw 100th moment (3 minutes)
21:57 to 22:10 - Triple H/Heyman segment (13 minutes)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
22:14 to 22:20 - Del Rio vs Santino (6 minutes)
22:20 to 22:22 - Cyndi Lauper hype (2 minutes)
--> commercial [3 minutes]
22:25 to 22:36 - Lauper segment (11 minutes)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
22:40 to 22:46 - Primetime Players vs Primo and Epico (6 minutes)
--> commercial [4 minutes]
22:50 to 22:51 - Raw 1000th promo (1 minute)
22:51 to 22:54 - Laurinitis promo (3 minutes)
--> commercial [3 minutes]
22:57 to 23:11 - Handicap match (14 minutes)

I genuinely hope that hour two is not higher than hour one. If it is higher, I hope it's because of Triple H and Heyman, and not because of Cena.
So if hour 2 is high, it's cause HHH/Heyman segment which lasted 10 minutes on hour 2? And if hour 2 is bad, its cause Cena was on tv for 14 minutes while there were about 40 minutes of the 2nd hour NOT containing Cena
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If Hour 2 is marginally higher than Hour 1, then yes I would hope that's due to HHH and Heyman.
If Hour 2 is significantly higher than Hour 1, then I suspect unfortunately WWE's core audience liked the final segment and the Lauper segment.
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If Hour 2 is marginally higher than Hour 1, then yes I would hope that's due to HHH and Heyman.
If Hour 2 is significantly higher than Hour 1, then I suspect unfortunately WWE's core audience liked the final segment and the Lauper segment.
I don't know... it could be people watched something else the first hour then switched since nothing else was on. I mean, I missed the first hour then only switched over around the last half hour to make sure I caught Common Law.
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The problem also is that Cyndi Lauper is not relevant to today's Raw audience. At least last week I think the majority of the audience would have heard the name Vader or would probably have Google'd the name afterwards and watched a few of his clips.
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Do you mean match quality or Big men in a match to make it seem more like a real fight?
I'm talking both. Match quality always mattered to me and then I couldn't care less if it seems like a 'real' fight because it isn't real. Usually matches like Show/Kane did nothing for me but I'll admit that they can occasionally be good (Taker/Show - CS '08). But I'm just more into matches.
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