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Old 06-14-2012, 12:36 PM   #4071 (permalink)
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D.M.N.'a breakdown with the commercial time really brings it home. Must be included every week from now on!
Agreed 100%, b/c commercial breaks is one of the things that affects viewer #s the most.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:21 PM   #4072 (permalink)
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Thanks for the comments. Will do from next week, although I probably won't be able to get down the lengths unless someone uploaded the entire show with commercials onto YouTube.

Just a thought though. Obviously people tune out during the commercials. How many tune out? 2 percent? 10 percent? 20 percent?

I haven't seen anything specific here, but I'd say about 10 percent of people tune out during the commercials. Let's use 10 percent for example purposes anyway. Stripping the commercials out of the breakdowns give you....

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Hour 1
Q1 - 2.88 rating / 4.15 million
Q2 - 2.59 rating / 3.74 million
Q3 - 2.69 rating / 3.88 million
Q4 - 2.76 rating / 3.98 million

Hour 2
Q5 - 3.39 rating / 4.96 million
Q6 - 3.40 rating / 4.96 million
Q7 - 3.30 rating / 4.82 million
Q8 - 3.30 rating / 4.82 million

Hour 3
Q9 - 3.59 rating / 5.14 million
Q10 - 3.28 rating / 4.69 million
Q11 - 3.50 rating / 5.01 million
Q12 - 3.49 rating / 4.99 million
Overrun - 3.99 rating / 5.72 million

Conclusion: I feel sorry for American's that watch TV live... and it's pretty evident why certain quarters did not do as well (ie Q10).

Based on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmDYF8g3iNQ
Q1 - 4.18 million (0.03 gain) <-- 1 minute stripped out; Vince/Johnny/Sheamus opening segment
Q2 - 3.96 million (0.22 gain) <-- 5.5 minutes stripped out; Sheamus vs Tensai
Q3 - 4.27 million (0.39 gain) <-- 7.5 minutes stripped out; Teddy/Johnny/Vince/Vickie backstage, Tensai destroys Sakamoto, Raw 1000th moment, Truth interview
Q4 - 4.12 million (0.14 gain) <-- 4 minutes stripped out; Santino/Layla vs Ricardo/Beth; Otunga/Vince/Kofi/Johnny backstage; Bryan entrance
Q5 - 4.96 million (0.00 gain) <-- nothing stripped out; Bryan/Kane/Punk/AJ in-ring segment
Q6 - 5.34 million (0.38 gain) <-- 6.5 minutes stripped out; Fatal 4 Way match
Q7 - 4.97 million (0.15 gain) <-- 3.5 minutes stripped out; Fatal 4 Way match conclusion; Vince/Natalya/Cameron/Naomi/Ryder backstage, Ryback squash
Q8 - 5.24 million (0.42 gain) <-- 7 minutes stripped out; Steel Cage 'entrance', Vince/Hornswoggle/Cena/Otunga/Regal backstage; Kofi entrance; Big Show entrance
Q9 - 5.30 million (0.16 gain) <-- 3.5 minutes stripped out; Steel Cage match, Sin Cara vs Curt Hawkins
Q10 - 5.16 million (0.47 gain) <-- 7.5 minutes stripped out; Cara/Hawkins conclusion (about 1 minute), Triple H/No Way Out hype, Vince/Bryan backstage, Raw 1000th moment
Q11 - 5.16 million (0.15 gain) <-- 3.5 minutes stripped out; Heath Slater vs Vader, Make a Wish trailer, Punk/AJ backstage, Kane/Bryan entrances
Q12 - 5.11 million (0.12 gain) <-- 3 minutes stripped out; Punk/AJ entrances, Punk/AJ vs Kane/Bryan, ECW DVD trailer, SmackDown trailer, start of final segment
Overrun - 5.72 million (0.00 gain) <-- no commercials (obviously)

Just to show the numbers are not plucked out of nowhere... example with Q9:

Commercials = 4.626 million (3.5 minutes - 4.626 million is from taking 10% off 5.14 million)
Non-Commercials = 5.30 million (11.5 minutes)
Average = 5.14 million (see quoted post)

And with Q10...

Commercials = 4.221 million (7.5 minutes - 4.221 million is from taking 10% off 4.69 million)
Non-Commercials = 5.16 million (7.5 minutes)
Average = 4.69 million (see quoted post)

And if we are to put the above in order of highest to lowest...

5.72 million = Final segment
5.34 million = Fatal 4 Way match
5.30 million = Steel Cage match, Sin Cara vs Curt Hawkins
5.24 million = Steel Cage 'entrance', Vince/Hornswoggle/Cena/Otunga/Regal backstage; Kofi entrance; Big Show entrance
5.16 million = Cara/Hawkins conclusion (about 1 minute), Triple H/No Way Out hype, Vince/Bryan backstage, Raw 1000th moment
5.16 million = Heath Slater vs Vader, Punk/AJ backstage
5.11 million = Punk/AJ vs Kane/Bryan, start of final segment
4.97 million = Fatal 4 Way match conclusion, Vince/Natalya/Cameron/Naomi/Ryder backstage, Ryback squash
4.96 million = Bryan/Kane/Punk/AJ in-ring segment
4.27 million = Teddy/Johnny/Vince/Vickie backstage, Tensai destroys Sakamoto, Truth interview
4.18 million = Opening segment
4.12 million = Santino/Layla vs Ricardo/Beth, Otunga/Vince/Kofi/Johnny backstage, Bryan entrance
3.96 million = Sheamus vs Tensai

The quarters in italics were 'filler quarters' where you can't read too much into them.

This is by no means 100 percent scientific, but interesting nevertheless....

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Yeah, it's about time attention is paid towards commercials. You know, the biggest reason people tune in and out of television shows...

Good stuff DMN.
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Maybe this also proves that people want more gimmick matches on Raw(if Show-Kofi could pull such a big rating for a match that really didn't have much meaning going into it).

Or maybe it just means Kofi = Ratings lol
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Good post DMN, your breakdown is easier to navigate and it gives a better description of the quarter hour segments and commercial breaks.
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Lol. I have talked about commercials for weeks now and it's finally been recognise as a reason for a drop in ratings. The final segment gain is not really impressive I thought it will reach a million or something. Well the show was pretty good anyway but I hated the ending I felt like I saw it already.
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Lol. I have talked about commercials for weeks now and it's finally been recognise as a reason for a drop in ratings. The final segment gain is not really impressive I thought it will reach a million or something. Well the show was pretty good anyway but I hated the ending I felt like I saw it already.
Commercials are not really a valid reason, they've always existed. Okay, it has some effect, but not a massive effect. If we're to do the hours breakdown without commercials (as a final point here) :

- hour 1: 4.13 million (+0.23m)
- hour 2: 5.09 million (+0.21m)
- hour 3: 5.32 million (+0.24m)

That's based on my 10 percent from here. So commercials make a difference, but not a massive difference in the grand scheme of things.
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The Rock isn't his close personal friend. They hardly even talk to each other.

If Dave has a question to ask him, he emails him. Hardly a thing a 'close personal friend' would do. They'd just call them up.

Back to the email thing. Dave would email him, but Rock can take weeks to get back to him. Again, not a thing a 'close personal friend' would do.
That's not true and in the past you told me you dont read the newsletter. Dave & Mavias go back 30 years.

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WOW. way to completely miss my point. I know its A "weak gain" although I've gone over wh yI hate people calling it that many times so not going back into that.

It also has nothing to do with who I am a fan of or not a fan of. My point, on the biased reporting comment, is just for weeks why Punk/Jericho were pretty much the 10 PM segment i got to read every week that their 150-350 K gains there were "weak gains". This weak a Show segment same #'s range but totally passed over and not even mentioned as weak, jsut shows a biased in the reports thats all.
Link me DIRECTLY and make this case.
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Link me DIRECTLY and make this case.
Link you where? those reports are all in this sticky thread 200-300 pages back go find them if you care that much, I personally have WAY better things to do.
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That's not true and in the past you told me you dont read the newsletter. Dave & Mavias go back 30 years.
Yes, the Rock and Dave have history, but like The-Rock-Says, they're not close. Dave himself has said on WO that he'll call The Rock and won't get a response until days or weeks later. I know the Rock is busy and that's why it takes him a while to respond, but if they were close friends it wouldn't happen.
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