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Old 01-07-2012, 04:16 PM   #371 (permalink)
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I think some of you have slightly the wrong idea about the Nielsen system, it's not 4million or however many people with a nielsen box. They take a small (but large enough to be statistically significant) sample and then extrapolate the final number based on the viewership within the sample

IMO it is still an inaccurate measure of the whole US TV show viewing population. The ratings estimate is usually only for the shows producers and advertising companies to give them an idea if the show is good enough to be on the air IMO.
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Old 01-07-2012, 04:30 PM   #372 (permalink)
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That's inaccurate as fuck then.
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Old 01-07-2012, 05:13 PM   #373 (permalink)
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Yup, but not every one has those boxes, I don't and I personally don't know anyone who own a neilsen ratings box .I would not take the ratings from Neilson owners as the correct estimate for all the WWE viewers in the USA. I have Comcast and I usually catch RAW on Youtube now adays, and I bet I am not the only one. Plus even if I don't watch it on Youtube, I watch it on cable which does not count my viewership either way.


Well you just pointed out the biggest weakness with the ratings system and why the trolls here are often so wrong. It doesn't account for DVR/Tivo, Youtube, other online sites, or WWE.com itself. That does keep the numbers from being completely accurate.

One thing it does do is statistically show how many people, who are watching TV at that time, are watching WWE. That is useful as an indicator, but shouldn't be confused with representing everything about ratings or how angles and/or stars are doing.
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No quarter hours then? That's 2 weeks in a row now lol.
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Raw on 12/26 did a 2.93 rating and 4.47 million viewers. The rating was almost identical with the prior week but there were 180,000 more viewers on a night when overall television viewership was down 7.7%, although thatís misleading because all the networks were in reruns. The show was 6th for the night on cable. The Atlanta Falcons vs. New Orleans Saints game where Drew Brees set the all-time single season passing yardage record did a 10.60 rating and 15.64 million viewers.

The big news is the curse of the second hour losing audience from the first hour ended. The reason is more that the first hour didnít do well, then the second hour did well. In particular, Raw of late has been starting with a strong first quarter, but the C.M. Punk/John Laurinaitis first quarter did a only a 2.94, and the usual big drop didnít happen. There were a significant amount of usual Raw viewers who either didnít bother to watch the first quarter and turn it off like usual, or did watch it but turned it off in a minute.

The show did a 2.3 in Males 12-17 (down 18% from last week), 2.6 in Males 18-49 (up 4%), 1.1 in Females 12-17 (up 38%) and 1.2 in Females 18-49 (down 8%). Male viewership was 67.1% of total viewers.

In the segment-by-segment, Booker T vs. Cody Rhodes lost 149,000 viewers. Backstage stuff with John Cena and Zack Ryder, Big Show and Kelly Kelly, Laurinaitis, Show and David Otunga and Jack Swagger, Dolph Ziggler, Vickie Guerrero and Mark Henry gained 78,000 viewers. Ryder & Eve Torres vs. Tyson Kidd & Natalya and a Cena interview lost 67,000 viewers. Cena vs. The Miz and post-match R-Truth attack gained 325,000 viewers, which is below usual but better than in some recent weeks. Big Show vs. David Otunga with one hand tied behind his back and an Alberto Del Rio interview with the Bellas gained 34,000 viewers. Punk vs. Swagger lost 367,000 viewers. Punk vs. Ziggler gained 172,000 viewers to a 2.91 main event average. The Cena/Kane overrun gained 543,000 viewers to a do a 3.26. As far as the demo changes with Cena and Kane out last, Male teens went from 2.8 to 3.1, Men 18-49 went from 2.8 to 3.2, Women teens went from 1.0 to 1.3 and Women 18-49 stayed at 1.0.
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that Jericho debut lost 80k, Punk vs Ziggler did about 200k+, Cena opener segment was the highest rated part of the show.
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punk cant draw by the look of these ratings, but we already knew that
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[quote=TMPRKO;10852201]Well you just pointed out the biggest weakness with the ratings system and why the trolls here are often so wrong. It doesn't account for DVR/Tivo, Youtube, other online sites, or WWE.com itself. That does keep the numbers from being completely accurate.
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Those numbers are irrelevant because they don't make WWE money (and if they do, it's a tiny amount). Why is that so difficult for people to comprehend?

And Nielsen does account for DVR. Nielsen has a measure called +7, a reviewed figure for any viewings made during the proceeding 7 days from the air date. Problem is advertisers don't really care about this figure because if you are using your DVR, you're going to skip the ads.

Do people just ignore posts they don't agree with? I've destroyed this whole Nielsen is inaccurate argument a 1000 times, yet I still see it posted.
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holy fuck that is a great explanation why the dvr stuff is never looked at.
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Now, why didn't we have a sticky thread when everybody was complaining about Orton's "lack" of drawing power?
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Well you just pointed out the biggest weakness with the ratings system and why the trolls here are often so wrong. It doesn't account for DVR/Tivo, Youtube, other online sites, or WWE.com itself. That does keep the numbers from being completely accurate.
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Those numbers are irrelevant because they don't make WWE money (and if they do, it's a tiny amount). Why is that so difficult for people to comprehend?

And Nielsen does account for DVR. Nielsen has a measure called +7, a reviewed figure for any viewings made during the proceeding 7 days from the air date. Problem is advertisers don't really care about this figure because if you are using your DVR, you're going to skip the ads.

Do people just ignore posts they don't agree with? I've destroyed this whole Nielsen is inaccurate argument a 1000 times, yet I still see it posted.
But WWE still get money from sponsers and advertising no matter how many people watch. The reason they want people watching is to heighten the chance they will buy PPV's/merch.

Or am I missing your point?
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Now, why didn't we have a sticky thread when everybody was complaining about Orton's "lack" of drawing power?
Hmmmm, well with Randal Keith Orton, I don't know tbh, there must be a reasonable explanation.
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