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post #3721 of 9175 (permalink) Old 06-05-2012, 11:17 AM
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Re: Ratings shock = Cena & Michael Cole in main event?

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post #3722 of 9175 (permalink) Old 06-05-2012, 11:36 AM
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post #3723 of 9175 (permalink) Old 06-05-2012, 11:49 AM
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You'll never go broke thinking the American public is stupid. That Cole garbage is precisely the sort of stuff marks and casuals eat up with a fork and knife plus pound the table for seconds.

Its a shame Punk, Bryan and Ziggler matches are ratings poison because they are the best workers in the company.
Exactly, I'm more of a casual fan and give me Cole over Punk or Bryan any day.. he can make a main event in one night with an awesome promo, giving emotions going into the match. Punk and Bryan are simply too stale and the majority of people aren't interested in technical wrestling. Me and all my friends loved last nights show and hated the boring overly long match between Punk-Bryan last week
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I blame Big Show for bad ratings because he is the reason I didn't even bother to tune in one RAW. I want the guy out of the main event because he bore people to tears. It doesn't make sense that people blame Punk for bad ratings when Punk isn't even the main focus of RAW. Big Johnny/Show/Cena are the big focus of RAW so if anyone needs to be blamed for bad ratings, it's them. Also doesn't help that nothing else on RAW matters since there are no meaningful mid-card feuds.

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post #3725 of 9175 (permalink) Old 06-05-2012, 12:10 PM
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Re: Ratings shock = Cena & Michael Cole in main event?

Fuck your "numbers".

Why should the amount of people watching a show or segment dictate whether I enjoy it or not?

I'm a wrestling fan, I would rather watch Punk and Bryan in a 24 hour Iron Man submission match than watch 30 seconds of Cole and Cena. And don't dare call me an indy nerd, I've never watched anything outside of WWE, TNA or WCW in my life.

If WWE really is concerned about all the bullshit that you ratings retards go on about constantly, then I'm done. If we're gonna get more shit like last night over good characters, storylines, promos and matches, then they can fuck off, I'm getting too old for this sheeeit!
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Why should the amount of people watching a show or segment dictate whether I enjoy it or not?

That's what I've been saying forever. People comment on Raw and are like "It was ok" and the second they find out the rating, they're like "not surprising considering how much it sucked". Or if it's a good rating, they'll be like "It's cause people wanted to see ____".


But what I'm wondering, is why people don't care about AM Raw ratings. It gets about .5M people(at 2AM!) watching. So Raw basically has at least .5M more viewers in USA than its rating shows.

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That's what I've been saying forever. People comment on Raw and are like "It was ok" and the second they find out the rating, they're like "not surprising considering how much it sucked". Or if it's a good rating, they'll be like "It's cause people wanted to see ____".


But what I'm wondering, is why people don't care about AM Raw ratings. It gets about .5M people(at 2AM!) watching. So Raw basically has at least .5M more viewers in USA than its rating shows.
Well, this thread is about ratings, not about talents, so I don't see why people storm in here saying "ratings don't matter", that's like joining a porn website and saying "looks/blowjob skills don't matter, it's all about the personality". I don't think the majority of the posters here are actually critisizing the talents mic/ring ability, just their mainstream appeal. At least I hope that's how it is, would be sad if someone based his enjoyment on how other people view him/her.
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post #3728 of 9175 (permalink) Old 06-05-2012, 01:56 PM
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Well, this thread is about ratings, not about talents, so I don't see why people storm in here saying "ratings don't matter", that's like joining a porn website and saying "looks/blowjob skills don't matter, it's all about the personality". I don't think the majority of the posters here are actually critisizing the talents mic/ring ability, just their mainstream appeal. At least I hope that's how it is, would be sad if someone based his enjoyment on how other people view him/her.
Totally agree here, these threads are the only that'll make me think the oldest cliche in the internet --no-ones forcing you to read it!
I really don't think any sane person is basing the personal enjoyment off the show from the ratings, you have to become a fan in the first place before you'd be anyway interested in such matters, and as a fan of course its extremely interesting to see which stars/segments are appealing to the casual audience.
Its not just wrestling, these threads were all over mma forums recently too when the UFC on FOX 3 show totally bombed (despite being an all round fantastic event). The numbers are always interesting to fans of the show.

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I blame Big Show for bad ratings because he is the reason I didn't even bother to tune in one RAW. I want the guy out of the main event because he bore people to tears. It doesn't make sense that people blame Punk for bad ratings when Punk isn't even the main focus of RAW. Big Johnny/Show/Cena are the big focus of RAW so if anyone needs to be blamed for bad ratings, it's them. Also doesn't help that nothing else on RAW matters since there are no meaningful mid-card feuds.
The blame also goes to Punk and Bryan. Their segmants are poorly written and their matches draw poor rating.

Listen up. I will give you a quote by Vince Russo that explains why CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan matches don't draw ratings:

"Wrestling matches equal bad ratings"

And this statement is correct. The large majority of viewers don't care about long, random wrestling matches. People want to see good stories, not watch a 20 minute match with little to no context.



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post #3730 of 9175 (permalink) Old 06-05-2012, 03:40 PM
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Fuck your "numbers".

Why should the amount of people watching a show or segment dictate whether I enjoy it or not?

I'm a wrestling fan, I would rather watch Punk and Bryan in a 24 hour Iron Man submission match than watch 30 seconds of Cole and Cena. And don't dare call me an indy nerd, I've never watched anything outside of WWE, TNA or WCW in my life.

If WWE really is concerned about all the bullshit that you ratings retards go on about constantly, then I'm done. If we're gonna get more shit like last night over good characters, storylines, promos and matches, then they can fuck off, I'm getting too old for this sheeeit!


I doubt the WWE cares THAT much about the ratings since in reality the ratings system is THEE most flawed and inaccurate system ever in TV. Nobody here knows exactly what a 2.7, 3.4, etc means or have a solution as to what will draw in certain quarter hours. If WWE wanted ratings, they just fill their two hr block with big stars, but judging for the last several Raw's, they don't give a shit right now.

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People complain about newer talent not getting over, but what they mean is that their favourite isn't getting over, everyone else can go to hell. I'm for as many people getting over as possible, it would improve the show and the more over people there are, the more avenues there are to push new talent, yes, your favourites are more likely to get pushed if there are more over people to feud with.
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