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**The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
For a list of the weekly rating dating back to January, please click here:

http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/2012-tv-ratings/

RATINGS BREAKDOWN FOR THIS WEEKS RAW 4/9

Raw on 4/9 did a 3.10 rating and 4.29 million viewers. The show was third for the night on cable. The show did a 2.4 in Males 12-17, 2.7 in Males 18-49, 1.0 in Girls 12-17 and 1.1 in Women 18-49 with a 69.3% male skew. It was down 21% from the 5.46 million viewers of the week after Mania show last year, and last year there was no bombshell along the lines of the Brock Lesnar return on the night after Mania show.

In the segment-by-segment, Brodus Clay & Santino Marella vs. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger lost 99,000 viewers.

Backstage with Laurinaitis with Miz an Cena, Marella looking for the Three Stooges and R-Truth vs. Cody Rhodes gained 255,000 viewers.

Lord Tensai vs. Yoshi Tatsu lost 415,000 viewers.

The mic work between C.M. Punk and Chris Jericho in the top of the hour segment gained 379,000 viewers to a 3.19.

Punk vs. Henry and the post-match with Jericho pouring beer all over Punk, as well as the quick Del Rio vs. Ryder match lost 169,000 viewers.

The Three Stooges in-ring segment lost 240,000 viewers and was the low point of the show at 2.90.

The Brock Lesnar interview gained 423,000 viewers.

And the Cena vs. Otunga match with Lesnar run-in gained 301,000 viewers, which is a very weak overrun number, finishing at 3.42.
 
#614 ·
Source: PWTorch
Link: http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_57120.shtml

WWE Raw on Monday, January 16 scored a 3.01 rating, up five percent compared to a 2.87 rating last week, but below a 3.10 rating for the 1-2-12 episode two weeks ago.

Raw averaged 4.29 million viewers, up seven percent from 4.00 million viewers last Monday up against the BCS National Title game. The first Monday of 2012 averaged 4.48 million viewers, four percent more than this week's Raw.

Raw continued its pattern of losing viewers in the second hour. The first hour averaged 4.32 million viewers and the second hour decreased slightly to an average of 4.26 million viewers. It marks 12 out of the last 13 weeks that Raw has seen a second hour decline in viewership.

-- On cable TV Monday night, Raw ranked #5 on cable behind History Channel programming and Fox's coverage of the Republican Party debate. Raw did rank #1 among males 18-34 & males 12-17 for the first time since Summer 2011 before pro and college football season began.

Raw ranked #2 among males 18-49, trailing "Pawn Stars" on History. Meanwhile, teen males continues to be on the decline. Raw ranked #6 in m12-17 and dropped to the lowest level since the Fall 2011 season premiere week. Raw's m12-17 rating was one full ratings point below the same week last year.

-- Last year's Raw this week on the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday scored a 3.27 rating and averaged 5.02 million viewers. The first hour started at 4.80 million viewers and the second hour grew to an average of 5.25 million viewers. Raw has not reached that second hour viewership level since the April 11 episode when Edge announced his retirement.

Caldwell's Analysis: WWE continues to bleed viewers in the second hour and, even removing football competition from Raw for the first time in four months, the rating did not increase like it typically does in January. WWE is losing a grip on its future buyers - teen males 12-17 - and just trying to hold on to adult viewers, compared to History Channel, which is dominating the 10:00 p.m. EST hour.
It's a good thing the ratings increased. It should be since football is over I guess. But it's pretty weird to see that on average the WWE almost lost 1 million viewers compared to last year. The big question is what's the problem? Are people just not interested anymore? And if so what are the reasons for this?
 
#616 ·
Source: PWTorch
Link: http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_57120.shtml



It's a good thing the ratings increased. It should be since football is over I guess. But it's pretty weird to see that on average the WWE almost lost 1 million viewers compared to last year. The big question is what's the problem? Are people just not interested anymore? And if so what are the reasons for this?
Because they spent a good amount of time of not building any stars and focusing everything on Cena. They've completely damage their product and now its biting them in the ass.
 
#615 ·
Its hilarious that Pawn Stars keepings beating them and stealing their target audiance, ever watched that show? its incredibly dull and repetitive yet oddly addictive.
I thought Raw was actually a pretty good show this week, far better than last week, their only chance of stopping this slide is strong enough booking in the period when Rock brings back a few viewers in the run to mania, make the whole show good enough that viewers will want to stick around. Easier said than done though.
 
#621 ·
Whoever didn't watch missed a great show so it's there loss i guess.

They've had 2 awesome shows in a row now (Well, apart from the Kane/Cena crap) so hopefully they're happy enough with the ratings and continue booking Raw the way they've been doing it the last couple of weeks. They can never seem to keep it consistent though, normally when they have 1 or 2 good shows they follow it up with a shit one
 
#624 ·
WWE is not as good as it's ever been. It's bad. It's a bad product. It's bad wrestling, bad TV, bad story-telling. Bad everything. I could talk about their terrible continuity all day. Zack Ryder loses his belt despite not being medically cleared. But like less than a month ago, Daniel Bryan wasn't allowed to cash-in his Money in the Bank on Mark Henry because he wasn't medically cleared? There's too many holes and none of it makes sense. It's not about little kids, or parents, or going head-to-head against football, or basketball or NCIS or whatever else. The show is just bad.
 
#625 ·
The one reason you give for it being worse now is that the logic is flawed and they contradict themselves when they've been doing that since the 90's. I don't know what show you've been watching in the past but WWE/F have always changed the rules to make things easier for themselves.
 
#626 ·
WWE is as better as its ever been
That's a good one.

Though Raw was actually good this week they hardly give viewers reasons to watch. No matches announced a week beforehand to get excited about, no huge angles to close the show. Whatever they did in the summer and early fall they need to do it here; and even then the product has been so watered down and awful since 2007 they need to keep producing consistently good shows to get viewership back to the mid 2000 levels(4.0s).

Or maybe they need to put the belt on an over heel. Shoulda been HHH/Punk feuding between now and Mania.
 
#636 · (Edited)
I wonder how much Nitro's and RAW's fanbase overlapped back then, because Nitro only dropped 1.4 when RAW came on the air.

Although whoever was back in the comparative Q2 on that particular show would have been slaughtered as being 'unable to draw/insert other remarks in here'.

EDIT - http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/results/raw/_1999/

June 28, 1999 – RAW in Charlotte: Corporate Ministry segment (The McMahons celebrate their victory over Steve Austin, and thus firing him as CEO! The Big Bossman came down with his old 80s Bossman music and rejoined the Corporate Ministry! Steve Austin came out and said he gave himself a new contract the night before. He can now assault Vince McMahon whenever he wants, and he signed a title match against Taker tonight!), Ken Shamrock vs Steve Blackman ended in a No Contest in a Weapons match, Billy Gunn Interview (Billy Gunn came out wearing the Tag Title belt claiming to be champion and then bragged about winning the King of the Ring. HHH & Chyna came out and said XPac & Roaddog are claiming all rights to DX. HHH tells Billy Gunn & Chyna to win back thr rights to DX so they can get the money. The Rock attacked HHH!), GTV spies on Test & Stephanie coming outr of a hotel, Chaz w/Marriana b Meat w/PMS, Terry Taylor interviewed Test (Shane McMahon & The Mean Street Posse attacked Test), Hardcore Holly b Kane (The Big Show interfered and chokeslammed Kane! After the match, Kane choke-slammed Holly four times in a row!), The Rock b Triple H w/Chyna by DQ when Billy Gunn whacked The Rock with a club, Backstage segment (Albert & Droz attacked Val Venis), Edge b The Godfather w/The Hos with help from Albert & Droz (After the match, Droz tried to peirce one of the Hos tongue but Edge made the save. Godfather offered his Hos to Edge in appreciation. Gangrel was spotted in the rafters watching Edge!), Bradshaw w/Farooq b Billy Gunn with help from X-Pac to reclaim posession of his Tag Title belt (Chyna attacked X-Pac after the match. Roaddog ran down to help X-Pac!), Ivory w/Nicole Bass segment (Ivory proclaimed no more barbie doll lipstick losers and issued an open challenge. A fan from the crowd, actually Malia Hosaka, got in the ring and had a catfight with Ivory until Nicole Bass powerbombed her! Ivory helped her up and knocked her back down!), Jeff Jarrett w/Debra b X-Pac with help from Billy Gunn to retain the Intercontinental title (Another DX vs DX brawl broke out after the match), Steve Austin b The Undertaker w/Paul Bearer to win the WWF title (Undertaker attacked and bloodied Steve Austin after the match)..
Bit in bold appears to be the bit in question, and I have no idea what a weapons match is...
 
#648 ·
BTW about this Austin/Taker match, it got 9.5 and it's the biggest overrun number in RAW history but it's not a segment, it's count as a overrun number, the highest rated segment in RAW history is Rock This is your life - 8.4, with the start of Rock vs Shane in cage second with 8.3

It's still the most viewed segment/part of the show/overrun in raw history.

Obv if it was the Rock you would be wetting your panties.

(good to have you back again btw)
 
#649 · (Edited)
Nah I have no problem with that, It's not like it's new to me or something, The Rock still has the two biggest segments and 2/3 biggest overrun numbers, if you want the top 3:

Austin/Taker 28/6/99 - 9.5 (good for this match because there was no overrun for Nitro that week...)
Rock/Shane 1/5/00 - 9.1
Rock/Austin/Vince vs Taker/HHH/Shane 10/5/99 - 9.1


:lmao Chris Jericho losing more viewers each week
Doesn't surprise me at all TBH, the random segments they put him in is one problem, but his character is ridiculous now, he got a superstar reaction/presentation when he came back, but he decided that he wants a different character instead of being a star, same thing happened with the merchandise when he was a heel, but that's his mentality, not good IMO but I'm still waiting to see him on RAW.
 
#654 ·
i think alot of you miss the point, i am here to try and explain it to you. no need to thank me. There are NO tv shows hitting the viewing figures of the early 2000's for the simple reason that there are many more channels + TV used to be the focal point of at home entertainment. This is no longer the case. As i've said before i watch online live, as do many, so WWE have to go on other measures like shirt sales, PPV sales which are harder to stream and there social network obsession. Every Monday they trend worldwide online which is dull to here but incredibly impressive. Any other tv show do this every episode?

You're welcome
 
#659 ·
Ratings matter. It's the primary basis that shows are renewed or cancelled on tv and it's the primary basis that companies use to decide where to place their tv adverstisements. I agree that what is considered a good rating now may not have been considered a good rating 15 or 20 years ago, mainly because of the wider range of options on tv due to cable. However, more options on tv, streaming or dvr doesn't explain the almost 20% drop in ratings on raw compared to last year. That technology was just as widespread last year. The ratings the last few months signal a loss of interest in the product
 
#661 ·
Ratings have always and will always matter. Ratings are the best tools (even better than the misleading crowd reaction ala Santino) we have to indicate which stars are over or not. Ratings indicate which storylines and direction attract the majority of the viewers. Now, if people want to say that other factors are in effect to explain why Punk isn't drawing as much, they have a legitimate point but to say that ratings do not matter is completely idiotic and backwards especially in today's era wherein TV ratings have become much more vital and PPVs have been less important.
 
#668 · (Edited)
January 23rd, 2012
Hour 1 - 4.667m (last week: 4.320m)
Hour 2 - 4.568m (last week: 4.258m)

Source: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...se-being-human-lost-girl-wwe-raw-more/117525/

Last Week
- Hour 1 - 1.7 18-49 rating
- Hour 2 - 1.7 18-49 rating

This Week
- Hour 1 - 1.8 18-49 rating
- Hour 2 - 1.7 18-49 rating

After not the greatest start to the year ratings rise, a nice number for the go home show to the 'Rumble. Well deserved as well.
 
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