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Old 05-31-2012, 02:31 AM   #3461 (permalink)
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Lol at people saying this will result with WWE taking the belt off Punk. WWE has like no stars right now, they know they need to establish some. Punk sells a fuck load of merch, gets the biggest face reactions from the live audience and is now on the fucking cover of the new WWE game. WWE has a lot of faith in Punk and with Orton being suspended and having a lot of heat with WWE atm, WWE are going to push Punk harder if anything.

And do you think anybody gives a fuck about a Big Show and Brodus Clay mainevent?

Pushing Punk more is the last thing they should do. Punk has hit a popularity plateau. He's not getting any higher or more over, but he can help others rise to his level. He should drop the belt to Bryan and lose the rematch to him then put him over in a promo as a serious threat. Then Bryan goes on to feud with Cena cementing his main event status and Punk helps elevate someone else (Ziggler).
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Pushing Punk more is the last thing they should do. Punk has hit a popularity plateau. He's not getting any higher or more over, but he can help others rise to his level. He should drop the belt to Bryan and lose the rematch to him then put him over in a promo as a serious threat. Then Bryan goes on to feud with Cena cementing his main event status and Punk helps elevate someone else (Ziggler).
Punk hasnt even been fully established yet as a legit big player. Yeah he's held the belt long but he's always playing second fiddle to whatever stale bullshit Cena's involved in. And during he's title reign what credible big name star has he beaten? Jericho maybe but he's always been a mainevent jobber so beating him doesnt do shit for Punk as Punk was a higher level then Jericho already.

He's only beaten one big name since his face turn, John Cena, thats it. John Cena helped cement Punk as a mainevent face but not as a huge big time star which WWE needs, FUCKING NEEDS! right now.
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Punk hasnt even been fully established yet as a legit big player. Yeah he's held the belt long but he's always playing second fiddle to whatever stale bullshit Cena's involved in. And during he's title reign what credible big name star has he beaten? Jericho maybe but he's always been a mainevent jobber so beating him doesnt do shit for Punk as Punk was a higher level then Jericho already.

He's only beaten one big name since his face turn, John Cena, thats it. John Cena helped cement Punk as a mainevent face but not as a huge big time star which WWE needs, FUCKING NEEDS! right now.
Yep he needs to go over HHH at some point, and I have a feeling that him and Rock are going to have a wwe title match at mania! Part of me thinks that the Rock hinting at wanting the title will mean he'll win it from someone and put over Punk at mania! I don't know why but The Rock has seriously been putting over Punk for quite some time now all over his twitter and seems to like and respect him MUCH MUCH more than he does Cena.

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Punk hasnt even been fully established yet as a legit big player. Yeah he's held the belt long but he's always playing second fiddle to whatever stale bullshit Cena's involved in. And during he's title reign what credible big name star has he beaten? Jericho maybe but he's always been a mainevent jobber so beating him doesnt do shit for Punk as Punk was a higher level then Jericho already.

He's only beaten one big name since his face turn, John Cena, thats it. John Cena helped cement Punk as a mainevent face but not as a huge big time star which WWE needs, FUCKING NEEDS! right now.
And who is he going to go over to get even higher? Rock? He's gone until Jan at the earliest. SCSA? Not coming back for anything but a big Mania match and pay day. HHH? HAHAHAHAHA, dat's a good one. Cena again? As I said, he's as high up as he can go right now.

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Yep he needs to go over HHH at some point, and I have a feeling that him and Rock are going to have a wwe title match at mania! Part of me thinks that the Rock hinting at wanting the title will mean he'll win it from someone and put over Punk at mania! I don't know why but The Rock has seriously been putting over Punk for quite some time now all over his twitter and seems to like and respect him MUCH MUCH more than he does Cena.

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LOL no. Top stars are not going to be working with Punk or Bryan for that matter. They return for Mania, work their big feuds/matches and leave. Thats it.

Its obvious thats how Vince mcmahon operates these days.
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And who is he going to go over to get even higher? Rock? He's gone until Jan at the earliest. SCSA? Not coming back for anything but a big Mania match and pay day. HHH? HAHAHAHAHA, dat's a good one. Cena again? As I said, he's as high up as he can go right now.
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HHH as the evil corporate boss, Punk as the anti-authority figure, Make HHH to be a legit mega-heel like only HHH can, build and build the feud over a few months, have Punk go over HHH at WM. There you go, Punks a star, not that hard.
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Horrible rating and compounded with Orton's suspension, not a very good week it seems. The problem is that it is "same old, same old". There is no need at all for Big Show to be hogging the main event scene, we've been there, done that, got the post card. It should be someone else getting their chance to shine, not someone who has been in the mid-card for nearly the past 10 years.
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HHH as the evil corporate boss, Punk as the anti-authority figure, Make HHH to be a legit mega-heel like only HHH can, build and build the feud over a few months, have Punk go over HHH at WM. There you go, Punks a star, not that hard.

A) They need stars ASAP not further cementing an already over guy 10 months from now.
B) If you think HHH will come out of retirement to put over Punk when he wouldn't do it last year when it would have been the appropriate and needed time then you're higher than Orton.

EDIT: C) To make HHH that mega heel he'd have to wrestle full time to rebuild up that heel character. That's not HHH (the man) anymore. He's corporate and behind the scenes now. His wrestling days are all but over. End of an era, remember?

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You think Vince is in full blown panic mode yet considering everything that's going on?
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A) They need stars ASAP not further cementing an already over guy 10 months from now.
B) If you think HHH will come out of retirement to put over Punk when he wouldn't do it last year when it would have been the appropriate and needed time then you're higher than Orton.
Except he did put punk over. Losing is not the only way to put someone over.

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This I completely agree. Triple h right now is way beyond the point of being a full time heel. Plus it would take a Montreal screwjob to get him legit heel heat, the way Vince mcmahon managed to get. I think the window for HHH-Punk possibility is fully closed at this point. I doubt he will be going heel anytime soon, unless there is another absolute huge star/draw like Batista to be made.
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