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Old 05-17-2012, 07:13 PM   #3271 (permalink)
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They're either trolling and/or trying to make a point. Fact is a lot of the people who dislike Bryan/Punk are fans of Orton so when they do this they're trying to get under the skin of the opposing side and trying to point out the hypocrisy.
Except it's always the Punk/Bryan marks that run their mouth about "lulz Orton cant draw". Those who make fun of Punk's drawing ability tend to be Rock fans, actually. So yeah, I have no sympathy for Punk/Bryan marks getting owned by those numbers.
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:21 PM   #3272 (permalink)
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:23 PM   #3273 (permalink)
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90% of the people that talk ratings are just trying express who they hate by any means necessary. Then there's 10% (THE ERIC BISCHOFF TEN PERCENT~!!!) that actually are intrigued by this stuff.
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:02 PM   #3274 (permalink)
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90% of the people that talk ratings are just trying express who they hate by any means necessary. Then there's 10% (THE ERIC BISCHOFF TEN PERCENT~!!!) that actually are intrigued by this stuff.
I think so too. A lot of people follow this stuff to troll that's about it.
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Old 05-19-2012, 04:42 AM   #3275 (permalink)
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Punk is not a draw, everyone know it.

WWE doesn't even trust him to perform in the main events anymore, last time they let Punk wrestles in the ME (few weeks ago), he lost viewers in the main event time slot.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:03 AM   #3276 (permalink)
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Breakdowns for the past few weeks...

April 30th
Hour 1
Q1 - 3.53 rating / 5.17 million
Q2 - 3.52 rating / 5.16 million
Q3 - 3.20 rating / 4.68 million
Q4 - 3.39 rating / 4.96 million

Hour 2
Q5 - 3.36 rating / 4.89 million
Q6 - 3.19 rating / 4.65 million
Q7 - 3.05 rating / 4.45 million
Q8 + Overrun - 3.49 rating / 5.03 million

May 7th
Hour 1
Q1 - 3.50 rating / 5.00 million
Q2 - 3.23 rating / 4.62 million
Q3 - 2.91 rating / 4.16 million
Q4 - 2.76 rating / 3.95 million

Hour 2
Q5 - 2.89 rating / 4.14 million
Q6 - 2.94 rating / 4.20 million
Q7 - 3.03 rating / 4.32 million
Q8 + Overrun - 2.94 rating / 4.21 million

May 14th
Hour 1
Q1 - 3.32 rating / 4.63 million
Q2 + Q3 - 2.87 rating / 4.03 million
Q4 - 2.64 rating / 3.66 million

Hour 2
Q5 - 3.37 rating / 4.70 million
Q6 - 2.54 rating / 3.70 million
Q7 - 2.62 rating / 3.81 million
Q8 + Overrun - 3.43 rating / 4.80 million
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Vince McMahon was NOT the draw of Monday Night Raw. He was a good foil for Austin but the Rock and Foley segments outdrew all of that even though it wasn't designed to. The McMahon stuff kind of led to the downfall of alot of progression. Him screwing over Rock at Mania 2000 got trashed tossed at them but that was as hot as it could be for him. Austin kicking his ass was what made money and if he never screwed over Bret Hart, he would of never mattered on the level he did. That's how all of that shit began. The screwjob carried over into how everyone perceived him.
I didn't imply that he was the draw. Just showed you how people relate to the *** boss angle. Stephanie McMahon is another great example. Triple H was on the verge of failure before the unholy alliance.

Rock and Foley both got huge bumps from Vinnie Mac too. Rock was the corporate champ, and Mic's hospital segments with Vince dramatically helped endear him with the crowd.

If you don't get what I'm saying take a look at Rock's reactions the second he started interacting with Vince. After that brief face turn in 98 he was the hottest thing in wrestling.

Yes the screwjob is the reason why people hated Vince so much, but I'm not sure why that matters or why you bring it up. BTW My opinion has always been that was a calculated move on his behalf. He knew Bret was dead weight, and knew that him v Austin was the future of the company.

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When put in good angles Punk draws well.

His contract signing with vince gained a million.

His contract signing with HHH on Smackdown gained 800'000

His match with Cena 2 weeks after Summerslam gained a million.

Gained 800'000 in a six man tag two weeks before the rumble and gained 750,000 the week after with his match with Johnny Ace.

His sobriety test with Jericho did a 3.6, the same mumber that Rock/Cena and HHH/HBK/Taker were consistently hitting on the RTWM.

So when is good angles he draws well, and in promos he draws very consistently. But when he is in a nothing feud with DB its not suprising that the audience doesnt care.
The entire poit of a draw, is that tey bring in viewers. In a good storyline, anyone can draw.

But those segments, it was cena/HHH/Vince drawing.

Punk has been in so many woeful segments, and has constantly drawn weak numbers.

As for wwe pushing small guys, yes it's killing the business, although wrestling is scripted, it should have some element of realism. Punk beating mark Henry is stupid. Mind you, I think small people can draw as heels.
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I came across this ratings history and Raw is almost dead. I came back to watch WE post Mania as I usually do (i tend to watch in cycles of interest)

http://www.thewrestlingcafe.com/inde...atings-history

Anyway the ratings are deader than dead. I remember in 2008/9 and people were talking about how bad the ratings were then. Raw is struggling to get a consistent 3 rating, That makes 2009 look mightily impressive. Funny thing is 2009 was awful. There was that stupid thing with William Regal when he turned the lights off for no reason.

I know viewership has fallen dramatically from all shows but this is unprecedented. I mean how much has technology improved over the past 3 years? You cant explain everything away to technology eg streaming.
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From June 10th 1996 till December 15th 1997 Raw hit a 3 8 times. Lowest rating was a 1.8 on October 14 1996. From December 22 until the end of the Monday Night War Raw never dipped below a 3.
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