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Old 05-17-2012, 12:03 PM   #3251 (permalink)
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For the people crying, relax, I know it's the second quarter(not like it matters with these guys lol but anyway), I just threw a line to use that Rock smiley.
It is a cool smiley y and we finally got our Bryan smilies to 1


As for why Johnny Ace "draws" Power Hungry Heel Authority figures have always drawn well it seems.
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Old 05-17-2012, 12:04 PM   #3252 (permalink)
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Yes, definitely, but they don't like average looking nerds involved in them on-screen. Wrestlers are supposed to be larger than life in their size, presence and colorful personalities. Punk, Bryan, Bourne, Kofi, Ziggler and the others are killing the business just like how Hart and Michaels nearly did in the mid 90's after the steroid trial. There was bad press after the steroids trials like the bad press after Benoit and Eddie's deaths, thus WWE started pushing tiny guys for a period and the ratings went down drastically.
How are Batista, Edge, Triple H, Randy Orton, Sheamus and John Cena small guys? These guys were pushed heavy after the Chris Benoit/Eddie Guerrero incidents, which makes your argument invalid. WWE pushes guys like Punk and Bryan because they have stepped up and are better than some of the guys in the current roster. Besides if WWE really wanted to they could take the belt from Punk anytime they want and give it to a guy like Ryback, Big Show, Kane or even back to Cena, but they are comfortable enough with him as champion since he has been champion for over 5 months now.

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Wait, so they're only here as replacement for Benoit? Do you think once the heat dies off Vince is going to bring Benoit back from the dead? You do know he's dead, right? The fact is people like that style of wrestling style (though Punk doesn't wrestle that style and comparing him to Benoit is ridiculous) and good wrestlers are needed, so the WWE are going to hire people to fill that need
That's not what I said at all. I meant that because Benoit and Eddie gained WWE a lot of bad press for steroids and perceived drug-abuse, WWE started hiring and pushing loads of small guys who clearly had never touched a steroid or even a beer in their lives to hold them up as examples that there's 'nothing to see here' with regards to any perceived drug culture (I say perceived because the naysayers are clueless idiots who don't know a thing about steroids). Like I said, once the heat is off (people forget) then they'll go back to how they were and all these gym-fearing kids will be gone.
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Old 05-17-2012, 12:09 PM   #3254 (permalink)
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Whats Benoit's death has to do with Punk and bryan? lol
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Old 05-17-2012, 12:22 PM   #3255 (permalink)
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When put in good angles Punk draws well.

His contract signing with vince gained a million.

His contract signing with HHH on Smackdown gained 800'000

His match with Cena 2 weeks after Summerslam gained a million.

Gained 800'000 in a six man tag two weeks before the rumble and gained 750,000 the week after with his match with Johnny Ace.

His sobriety test with Jericho did a 3.6, the same mumber that Rock/Cena and HHH/HBK/Taker were consistently hitting on the RTWM.

So when is good angles he draws well, and in promos he draws very consistently. But when he is in a nothing feud with DB its not suprising that the audience doesnt care.
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Old 05-17-2012, 12:33 PM   #3256 (permalink)
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Which Raw are you talking about? date?
Looked it up and it's August 22nd. Like I said I may be mistaken, but I know Punk gained 1,000,000 with someone at least once.

And honestly, Punk is a good enough draw to the point where if he has a good angle, whether with a proven draw or not, he'll get good numbers. Yeah his best numbers came when working with proven draws in Vince, Cena, and HHH but he also had a great angle going into those and that's why the numbers were as big as they were. Then there was the OR where his segment with Ace gained 800,000+ viewers, and at the time I wouldn't call Ace a draw by any means. He was still developing into a true heel. Foley being in the segment might've helped though no doubt, but Punk has been in some big gains and one of the highest segments of the show with or without a proven draw.

However, what separates him from a true proven draw though is if he's put into an angle with no story, no good build, and is a throw-a-way for the most part, he won't do extremely well. But he holds his own well enough. It's just guys like Rock, Taker, HHH, Vince, Cena, etc. when put in the same situation, would more than likely pull in bigger numbers.
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Old 05-17-2012, 01:09 PM   #3257 (permalink)
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I find it hard to blame anyone other than Vince and creative for any drops, really. Across the board. The shows are written to a very predictable, outdated, insultingly shitty formula. And the fact that some of the shittiest segments are actually spiking ratings just depresses me even more.
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Well, this proves that if Punk is given a good angle he can bring in good numbers. People are interested in Ace because he has gotten some good development over the past 5 months or so. They know when he is on something big will go down, plus he made Big Show cry lol.
Punk just needs to go around making people cry then lol.
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Old 05-17-2012, 02:56 PM   #3259 (permalink)
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apparently so. Apparently larger than life athletes crying = DEM RATINGZ
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:01 PM   #3260 (permalink)
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