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Old 05-10-2012, 12:52 PM   #3031 (permalink)
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Orton gets a lot of flack for not being a draw is because the guy has been pushed for 10 years and still cant draw.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:52 PM   #3032 (permalink)
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punk and bryan can't draw for shit
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Excellent post. Most Punk marks are pretty funny. They raid Orton threads with a bunch of crap about how he sucks and how he can't draw then when Punk loses viewers, it's everyone's fault except Punk. Either that or they'll ignore it and say "just enjoy the show". Note that this isn't aimed at ALL Punk fans, but a lot of them lurking around here. I see them in Orton related threads all the time slamming his alleged lack of drawing ability even though they idolize a guy who has not been able to draw a damn thing in terms of ratings.

Orton gets 4.1 ratings in 2009 in his feud with HHH but it's all due to HHH and Vince even though Orton tops Cena's merchandise sells too, but in 2011 and 2012, CM Punk gets 2.94 the week before Money in the Bank and it's probably somebody else's fault or the best one, "just ignore it and enjoy the damn show!!!!!!".

And on the topic of June 2008 having weak ratings, I think a lot of fans were pissed about the PG rating which was introduced in either 2/6 or 9/6, so they chose to boycott the show.
It's not a thing exclusive to Orton and Punk marks, it goes to all "marks" hence why I call myself a fan of most guys as I think the difference between a fan and a mark is that a fan can still be rational whereas a mark thinks his guy can do no wrong in any department. Even some good posters sometimes irrationally defend their faves in aspects where they simply aren't good at, and it's annoying. Some people need to accept that just because they like somebody a lot doesn't mean he has no faults or that he is universally adored, Orton and Punk are good talents, but won't draw based on factual numbers with few exceptions (Orton was hot in 2009 while Punk drew well in MITB for example). Doesn't make them less talented, just lesser stars.
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Ladies and gentlemen, substance.

Who gives a shit who draws and who doesn't? As long as I enjoy watching someone I couldn't care less. The WWE clearly doesn't care, if it did it wouldn't be making movies.

Ratings and draw arguments make me hate wrestling fans, stop letting it concern you, cheer your guys, boo others just enjoy it for fuck sake.
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:23 PM   #3035 (permalink)
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Orton gets a lot of flack for not being a draw is because the guy has been pushed for 10 years and still cant draw.
Bullshit. He has not been "pushed for 10 years". WWE just made sure he had something worthwhile to do for most of his time. They never gave up on him and it surely paid off. As for him not drawing, his road to Wrestlemania 25 has drawn more than CM Punk or Daniel Bryan ever have. I have no problem with their inability to draw, just pointing out the hypocrisy.

CM Punk got to shoot on the company, that's bigger than any push Orton ever had. And he was paired with John Cena, who is universally accepted as a bigger draw than HHH. But yeah, go ahead with that non-sense. HHH brought all the ratings even though Orton was also the top merch seller and Cena caused the lack of ratings in the summer.
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Ladies and gentlemen, substance.

Who gives a shit who draws and who doesn't?
I'm going to go out on a limb & guess that the answer would be the people opening a thread entitled **The Official Raw Ratings Thread**

They sort of go hand-in-hand, no?

A better question would be why someone would go into a thread entitled **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** & question why someone would care about ratings and/or drawing power. I don't know, maybe because that's what the thread is??????
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:36 PM   #3038 (permalink)
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Ladies and gentlemen, substance.

Who gives a shit who draws and who doesn't? As long as I enjoy watching someone I couldn't care less. The WWE clearly doesn't care, if it did it wouldn't be making movies.

Ratings and draw arguments make me hate wrestling fans, stop letting it concern you, cheer your guys, boo others just enjoy it for fuck sake.
I'd really love to know where this myth has come from that people who discuss ratings don't enjoy wrestling lol. Seriously. When the fuck did that become the case because it isn't even remotely true. Half the people in this thread come to troll. The other half are actually discussing the rating of the show. How that equates to the latter half or even the former half not enjoying what they see or not being true wrestling fans or to stop watching or any of that crap is beyond me.
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I'd really love to know where this myth has come from that people who discuss ratings don't enjoy wrestling lol. Seriously. When the fuck did that become the case because it isn't even remotely true. Half the people in this thread come to troll. The other half are actually discussing the rating of the show. How that equates to the latter half or even the former half not enjoying what they see or not being true wrestling fans or to stop watching or any of that crap is beyond me.
Well said here. Where as I am only speaking for myself here but I could could not care any less what the ratings #'s actually are, but I can still have a discussion on the numbers and seperate the #s from me actually being a fan of wrestling/certain wrestlers. The other times I come into this thread is just to either troll, laugh at the trolls, or laugh at the total obsurdity of some peoples posts that are actually being serious and not trolling.
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Bullshit. He has not been "pushed for 10 years". WWE just made sure he had something worthwhile to do for most of his time. They never gave up on him and it surely paid off. As for him not drawing, his road to Wrestlemania 25 has drawn more than CM Punk or Daniel Bryan ever have. I have no problem with their inability to draw, just pointing out the hypocrisy.

CM Punk got to shoot on the company, that's bigger than any push Orton ever had. And he was paired with John Cena, who is universally accepted as a bigger draw than HHH. But yeah, go ahead with that non-sense. HHH brought all the ratings even though Orton was also the top merch seller and Cena caused the lack of ratings in the summer.
nah trips is a bigger draw than cena
and just because orton drew during one feud it doesnt mean his push paid off as we have seen with smackdown

dont let yourself get sucked in into these conversations because 80% of the people posting here are hypocrits
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