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Old 05-10-2012, 06:34 AM   #3011 (permalink)
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I dont understand why we fight over Ratings so much every week?

So Punk lost viewers in his segments, so did John Cena & HHH, and The Rock failed to deliver big ratings during RTWM 2012... SO FUCKING WHAT?

what does this change exactly? The Rock is still the biggest star in wrestling, Cena is still the top guy of this generation, Triple H is still the heir to the throne and CM Punk is still the best option to push.

Seriously WWE is in dire need of stars right now, they are not going to de-push him just because of a few low rated segments. He might lose the championship but would still remain in the main event scene for the foreseeable future.

Vince Mcmahon didnt have his two absolute Top stars, Cena and HHH, look weak against Punk at PPVs for nothing. Cena lost twice and HHH was only able to beat punk after 3 run-ins from Miz,truth,Nash and two pedigrees, not to mention all the shoots on Stephanie, HHH's wife and Vince's daughter. Its pretty obvious they have decided to push the guy & keep him in the main event scene as a top star.

All this bitching is pointless, waste of time. Stop doing it.
lol, this is all fundamentally true.

And I agree with Starbuck, the story of Undertaker returning to stand as the WWE's final defender is a much more logically compelling one than The Rock doing it. It's funny because from what I remember, neither guy ever won a match against Lesnar... I do have to wonder about that Heyman remark concerning Triple H surviving a HIAC match with Taker but not lasting a few seconds with Brock. Hmm...
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Listen Punk is suppose to be this big star everyone says he is. He was advertise to be in the main event. So it shouldn't matter who he's facing. He's the big star, people should want to see him. If Steve Austin was facing Mable in the main event of RAW way back, the rating would be up because of Steve Austin being in the main event. People would of tuned in to see Steve Austin.

Simple fact is, Punk was advertise for the main event and lost viewers. He's suppose to be the star, so him being a star should bring viewers in or at least not lose viewers.

No big deal to admit.
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If it was Brock Lesnar (or Orton, or pretty much anyone who isn't CM Punk) losing viewers in the overrun there would a cascade of Punk marks (not saying any names but you know who I mean) making fun of him and saying he should be fired etc etc.

Bryan's segments always seem to badly on Raw for some reason (although he did well on SD so not sure why it doesn't translate) and of course fat Albert is not over whatsoever so it doesn't surprise me that much tbh
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Listen Punk is suppose to be this big star everyone says he is. He was advertise to be in the main event. So it shouldn't matter who he's facing. He's the big star, people should want to see him. If Steve Austin was facing Mable in the main event of RAW way back, the rating would be up because of Steve Austin being in the main event. People would of tuned in to see Steve Austin.

Simple fact is, Punk was advertise for the main event and lost viewers. He's suppose to be the star, so him being a star should bring viewers in or at least not lose viewers.

No big deal to admit.
Exactly.

The Rock is supposed to be this big star everyone says he is. He was advertised nonstop for a week in the last days of February which is when The Road to Wrestlemania traditionally heats up to be returning after several months of being absent from the product, and was advertised relentlessly throughout the show as returning in the main event/overrun segment. So it shouldn't matter what he's doing or saying. He's the big star, people should want to see him. If Hulk Hogan was facing The War Lord in the main event of Saturday Night's Main Event, the rating would be up because of Hulk Hogan being in the main event. People would have tuned in to see Hulk Hogan.

The simple fact is, The Rock was advertised for the main event segment to cut a huge promo after being gone for several months and he lost viewers. 349,000 of them, to be more or less exact. He's supposed to be the star, so him being a star should bring in viewers or at least not lose viewers.

No big deal to admit it.



No, seriously, it's a bit more complicated than that in all honesty: "And as noted before, the Rock’s promo pre-Cena gained 643,000 viewers to a to a 3.53, which is nothing remarkable for the overrun. And the Cena promo and him leaving and Rock finishing up lost 349,000 viewers and the show finished at a 3.30, which has to be considered a surprise."

So, during what is arguably the opening act of the final month leading into Wrestlemania with The Rock returning after a long week of endless hype and advertising which continued on for two straight hours throughout all of Raw, and was set up by John Cena's provocative promo the week before, Rock pre-Cena "gained 643,000 viewers to do a 3.53, which is nothing remarkable for the overrun." And then with Cena's promo and Rock finishing up, they lost "349,000 viewers and the show finished at a 3.30, which has to be considered a surprise."

Remember, this is the last Raw in February right in the middle of The Road to Wrestlemania with the two biggest stars WWE had at the time to use.

Meanwhile, in the month of May with Brock Lesnar suspended, Triple H injured and John Cena said to not be there, there's an episode of Raw leading into the most fillerific PPV of the year, Over the Limit, and the main event is scheduled to be between Lord Tensai, who clearly no one really cares about yet and WWE Champion CM Punk, who hasn't sniffed a main event segment since February. A tag team match involving nine-time world champion Randy Orton, Chris Jericho, Sheamus and Alberto Del Rio scores a 2.89 rating for its quarter hour, while Tensai/Punk scores a 2.94. That tag team match was really a loser in terms of viewership, as it didn't even cover the losses they sustained from the divas match in the quarter hour before (divas match lost 207,000 viewers, "star-studded tag team match" gained 191,000).

Good to see Miz and Brodus get that 55,000 gain, in any event. But really, the show didn't do very well at all, in general, aside from the opening segment with 4.30 million viewers and a 3.50 rating.

Looks like WWE needs to put the Fisher Price Championship on John Laurinaitis. Maybe he can headline Summerslam against The Rock.
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The WWE championship has been devalued so much, you don't even feel like there's a champion anymore.

Even Perez Hilton would have a better champion, seriously. You all saw how big that dude was when he guest hosted. If you put him side by side with Punk, you'd think Punk's the homo.
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Exactly.

The Rock is supposed to be this big star everyone says he is. He was advertised nonstop for a week in the last days of February which is when The Road to Wrestlemania traditionally heats up to be returning after several months of being absent from the product, and was advertised relentlessly throughout the show as returning in the main event/overrun segment. So it shouldn't matter what he's doing or saying. He's the big star, people should want to see him. If Hulk Hogan was facing The War Lord in the main event of Saturday Night's Main Event, the rating would be up because of Hulk Hogan being in the main event. People would have tuned in to see Hulk Hogan.

The simple fact is, The Rock was advertised for the main event segment to cut a huge promo after being gone for several months and he lost viewers. 349,000 of them, to be more or less exact. He's supposed to be the star, so him being a star should bring in viewers or at least not lose viewers.

No big deal to admit it.




No, seriously, it's a bit more complicated than that in all honesty: "And as noted before, the Rock’s promo pre-Cena gained 643,000 viewers to a to a 3.53, which is nothing remarkable for the overrun. And the Cena promo and him leaving and Rock finishing up lost 349,000 viewers and the show finished at a 3.30, which has to be considered a surprise."

So, during what is arguably the opening act of the final month leading into Wrestlemania with The Rock returning after a long week of endless hype and advertising which continued on for two straight hours throughout all of Raw, and was set up by John Cena's provocative promo the week before, Rock pre-Cena "gained 643,000 viewers to do a 3.53, which is nothing remarkable for the overrun." And then with Cena's promo and Rock finishing up, they lost "349,000 viewers and the show finished at a 3.30, which has to be considered a surprise."

Remember, this is the last Raw in February right in the middle of The Road to Wrestlemania with the two biggest stars WWE had at the time to use.

Meanwhile, in the month of May with Brock Lesnar suspended, Triple H injured and John Cena said to not be there, there's an episode of Raw leading into the most fillerific PPV of the year, Over the Limit, and the main event is scheduled to be between Lord Tensai, who clearly no one really cares about yet and WWE Champion CM Punk, who hasn't sniffed a main event segment since February. A tag team match involving nine-time world champion Randy Orton, Chris Jericho, Sheamus and Alberto Del Rio scores a 2.89 rating for its quarter hour, while Tensai/Punk scores a 2.94. That tag team match was really a loser in terms of viewership, as it didn't even cover the losses they sustained from the divas match in the quarter hour before (divas match lost 207,000 viewers, "star-studded tag team match" gained 191,000).

Good to see Miz and Brodus get that 55,000 gain, in any event. But really, the show didn't do very well at all, in general, aside from the opening segment with 4.30 million viewers and a 3.50 rating.

Looks like WWE needs to put the Fisher Price Championship on John Laurinaitis. Maybe he can headline Summerslam against The Rock.
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Love how you bold CM Punk and Daniel Bryan and not Lord Tensai connoting that the blame should be enitrely on the two guys that are very over with the audience and the guy that has been getting consistently good numbers for the past few weeks and not Lord Tensia, a guy who has been pushed to the moon beating two of the top faces in the company and not being over a lick.

How anyone can take you seriously is beyond me as you are clearly the most biased and delusional poster on the forum.
yeah yeah yeah excuses excuses,if it was orton or cena there'd be nonstop bashing.......quit making up excuses,the guy isnt a draw and will never be
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:52 AM   #3018 (permalink)
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Laughing at Rock316AE having such a hard time dealing with the fact that Punk is bigger than Orton.
punk bigger than orton? lol atleast orton hasnt broken countless records when it comes to poor ratings (punk sets a record everytime hes involved in the main event haha)
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Exactly.

The Rock is supposed to be this big star everyone says he is. He was advertised nonstop for a week in the last days of February which is when The Road to Wrestlemania traditionally heats up to be returning after several months of being absent from the product, and was advertised relentlessly throughout the show as returning in the main event/overrun segment. So it shouldn't matter what he's doing or saying. He's the big star, people should want to see him. If Hulk Hogan was facing The War Lord in the main event of Saturday Night's Main Event, the rating would be up because of Hulk Hogan being in the main event. People would have tuned in to see Hulk Hogan.

The simple fact is, The Rock was advertised for the main event segment to cut a huge promo after being gone for several months and he lost viewers. 349,000 of them, to be more or less exact. He's supposed to be the star, so him being a star should bring in viewers or at least not lose viewers.

No big deal to admit it.



No, seriously, it's a bit more complicated than that in all honesty: "And as noted before, the Rock’s promo pre-Cena gained 643,000 viewers to a to a 3.53, which is nothing remarkable for the overrun. And the Cena promo and him leaving and Rock finishing up lost 349,000 viewers and the show finished at a 3.30, which has to be considered a surprise."

So, during what is arguably the opening act of the final month leading into Wrestlemania with The Rock returning after a long week of endless hype and advertising which continued on for two straight hours throughout all of Raw, and was set up by John Cena's provocative promo the week before, Rock pre-Cena "gained 643,000 viewers to do a 3.53, which is nothing remarkable for the overrun." And then with Cena's promo and Rock finishing up, they lost "349,000 viewers and the show finished at a 3.30, which has to be considered a surprise."

Remember, this is the last Raw in February right in the middle of The Road to Wrestlemania with the two biggest stars WWE had at the time to use.

Meanwhile, in the month of May with Brock Lesnar suspended, Triple H injured and John Cena said to not be there, there's an episode of Raw leading into the most fillerific PPV of the year, Over the Limit, and the main event is scheduled to be between Lord Tensai, who clearly no one really cares about yet and WWE Champion CM Punk, who hasn't sniffed a main event segment since February. A tag team match involving nine-time world champion Randy Orton, Chris Jericho, Sheamus and Alberto Del Rio scores a 2.89 rating for its quarter hour, while Tensai/Punk scores a 2.94. That tag team match was really a loser in terms of viewership, as it didn't even cover the losses they sustained from the divas match in the quarter hour before (divas match lost 207,000 viewers, "star-studded tag team match" gained 191,000).

Good to see Miz and Brodus get that 55,000 gain, in any event. But really, the show didn't do very well at all, in general, aside from the opening segment with 4.30 million viewers and a 3.50 rating.

Looks like WWE needs to put the Fisher Price Championship on John Laurinaitis. Maybe he can headline Summerslam against The Rock.
DesRow strikes again pretty much agreed here.

ALso would like to note that ratings and title prestige are the 2 most over analyzed things on these forums (its entertaining though)

And just one other note on the Obersver's Rating's Breakdown report....Seriously still using that stupid "weak gain" line for the 10PM slot again? And before all the ratings nerds start with their ridiculous explanations of why its a weak gain, i get the theory behind it.

As for the ending segment, hjow can anyone really be surprised about this? The ending segment to a weak filler show (outside of Heyman's return) involving Tensai (who nobody cares about) in what is supposed to be a "punishment" match for Punk with no mention before hand that his PPV opponent would even be involved until the match started at 5 minutes to the top of the hour. Terrible to lose viewers don't get me wrong not trying to defend that I am just saying is it really that shocking?

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Exactly.

The Rock is supposed to be this big star everyone says he is. He was advertised nonstop for a week in the last days of February which is when The Road to Wrestlemania traditionally heats up to be returning after several months of being absent from the product, and was advertised relentlessly throughout the show as returning in the main event/overrun segment. So it shouldn't matter what he's doing or saying. He's the big star, people should want to see him. If Hulk Hogan was facing The War Lord in the main event of Saturday Night's Main Event, the rating would be up because of Hulk Hogan being in the main event. People would have tuned in to see Hulk Hogan.

The simple fact is, The Rock was advertised for the main event segment to cut a huge promo after being gone for several months and he lost viewers. 349,000 of them, to be more or less exact. He's supposed to be the star, so him being a star should bring in viewers or at least not lose viewers.

No big deal to admit it.



No, seriously, it's a bit more complicated than that in all honesty: "And as noted before, the Rock’s promo pre-Cena gained 643,000 viewers to a to a 3.53, which is nothing remarkable for the overrun. And the Cena promo and him leaving and Rock finishing up lost 349,000 viewers and the show finished at a 3.30, which has to be considered a surprise."

So, during what is arguably the opening act of the final month leading into Wrestlemania with The Rock returning after a long week of endless hype and advertising which continued on for two straight hours throughout all of Raw, and was set up by John Cena's provocative promo the week before, Rock pre-Cena "gained 643,000 viewers to do a 3.53, which is nothing remarkable for the overrun." And then with Cena's promo and Rock finishing up, they lost "349,000 viewers and the show finished at a 3.30, which has to be considered a surprise."

Remember, this is the last Raw in February right in the middle of The Road to Wrestlemania with the two biggest stars WWE had at the time to use.

Meanwhile, in the month of May with Brock Lesnar suspended, Triple H injured and John Cena said to not be there, there's an episode of Raw leading into the most fillerific PPV of the year, Over the Limit, and the main event is scheduled to be between Lord Tensai, who clearly no one really cares about yet and WWE Champion CM Punk, who hasn't sniffed a main event segment since February. A tag team match involving nine-time world champion Randy Orton, Chris Jericho, Sheamus and Alberto Del Rio scores a 2.89 rating for its quarter hour, while Tensai/Punk scores a 2.94. That tag team match was really a loser in terms of viewership, as it didn't even cover the losses they sustained from the divas match in the quarter hour before (divas match lost 207,000 viewers, "star-studded tag team match" gained 191,000).

Good to see Miz and Brodus get that 55,000 gain, in any event. But really, the show didn't do very well at all, in general, aside from the opening segment with 4.30 million viewers and a 3.50 rating.

Looks like WWE needs to put the Fisher Price Championship on John Laurinaitis. Maybe he can headline Summerslam against The Rock.
Who's disagreeing with you? I was shocked that Rock's rating weren't gaining huge (in the 1 million mark) But it did translate over to PPV buys. And that promo you were talking about went on so long (20 mins past the overrun) and it became boring. But I never made excuses for Rock. But he and Cena delievered on the PPV.
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