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post #3001 of 9175 (permalink) Old 05-10-2012, 05:47 AM
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Punk continues to break records as the most irrelevant WWE champion of all time. Another almost 14 years low. Punk is horrendous on his own but you when add another indy guy from his type, the audience just can't handle it, been proven. They got only 7 minutes overrun so there's no way it's the viewers of the next show which means that the RAW/wrestling fanbase didn't want to see this and who can blame them? catastrophic.

Great to see the awesome Heyman promo gained on this slot.

Next week they're probably bringing HHH to try to save the show, hopefully Paul E will be there and Cena is probably back. I can't believe I'm saying it, but just put the belt on Cena, what Punk did to the prestige of the title in his run is almost irreversible at this point.
Love how you bold CM Punk and Daniel Bryan and not Lord Tensai connoting that the blame should be enitrely on the two guys that are very over with the audience and the guy that has been getting consistently good numbers for the past few weeks and not Lord Tensia, a guy who has been pushed to the moon beating two of the top faces in the company and not being over a lick.

How anyone can take you seriously is beyond me as you are clearly the most biased and delusional poster on the forum.

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How can you blame Tensai when he is not even over? Punk is the WWE champion right?

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How can you blame Tensai when he is not even over? Punk is the WWE champion right?
How can you blame someone whos not over for people changing the channel when he's on? maybe because he's not over, which means people dont care about him, which means that people wont tune in to see him wrestle.

Stupid question is stupid.

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I don't like Punk but i don't think he is the one to blame for the low Ratings .. the product overall suck and WWE is the only thing to blame here.



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I don't like Punk but i don't think he is the one to blame for the low Ratings .. the product overall suck and WWE is the only thing to blame here.
Whilst i tend to agree to a point in what your saying i can remember back a couple of years ago that John Cena was getting a lot of hate because ratings were slightly down on what they had been and was apparently the sole reason for this because he was the WWE champion and in the main event at the time. On that basis then the same has to be applied to CM Punk who whilst being The IWC darling is also WWE champion, working the main event on Raw and with no John Cena on screen CM Punk was the main focus of the show.

As everyone knows i'm a mark for CM Punk and have been since his ECW days whilst also having been a big fan since his heel ROH days but the fact it that when he is working the main event or is the main focus of Raw they lose ratings. Now i'm not someone who really cares about ratings as they don't affect my personal viewing pleasure but WWE management seem to care and the reality is that despite CM Punk arguably being the best all round in ring performer in WWE and one of the most popular doesn't draw ratings and that is why he won't ever be fully pushed ahead of John Cena.

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hell i couldnt sit through the whole show and went to sleep after the first hour
you can hardly blame punk for that
and even trips lost viewers in the main event so my gosh -.-

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Whilst i tend to agree to a point in what your saying i can remember back a couple of years ago that John Cena was getting a lot of hate because ratings were slightly down on what they had been and was apparently the sole reason for this because he was the WWE champion and in the main event at the time. On that basis then the same has to be applied to CM Punk who whilst being The IWC darling is also WWE champion, working the main event on Raw and with no John Cena on screen CM Punk was the main focus of the show.

As everyone knows i'm a mark for CM Punk and have been since his ECW days whilst also having been a big fan since his heel ROH days but the fact it that when he is working the main event or is the main focus of Raw they lose ratings. Now i'm not someone who really cares about ratings as they don't affect my personal viewing pleasure but WWE management seem to care and the reality is that despite CM Punk arguably being the best all round in ring performer in WWE and one of the most popular doesn't draw ratings and that is why he won't ever be fully pushed ahead of John Cena.
Maybe you are right .. but when you look at the road to Wrestlemania and you have Rock/Cena (the main angle on Raw) and they still couldn't save RAW from the low Ratings then that means there is a problem in the overall product.



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I dont understand why we fight over Ratings so much every week?

So Punk lost viewers in his segments, so did John Cena & HHH, and The Rock failed to deliver big ratings during RTWM 2012... SO FUCKING WHAT?

what does this change exactly? The Rock is still the biggest star in wrestling, Cena is still the top guy of this generation, Triple H is still the heir to the throne and CM Punk is still the best option to push.

Seriously WWE is in dire need of stars right now, they are not going to de-push him just because of a few low rated segments. He might lose the championship but would still remain in the main event scene for the foreseeable future.

Vince Mcmahon didnt have his two absolute Top stars, Cena and HHH, look weak against Punk at PPVs for nothing. Cena lost twice and HHH was only able to beat punk after 3 run-ins from Miz,truth,Nash and two pedigrees, not to mention all the shoots on Stephanie, HHH's wife and Vince's daughter. Its pretty obvious they have decided to push the guy & keep him in the main event scene as a top star.

All this bitching is pointless, waste of time. Stop doing it.

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If i can remember the only segment in the road to Wrestlemania that gained over a million viewers was Taker/HHH segment after EC PPV.



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kokepepsi put up a good example back a few pages.

HHH Vs. Jeff Hardy with Cena at ringside in 2008 did a 2.99 overrun rating. CM Punk Vs. Tensai/Daniel Bryan did a 2.94 rating.

So using logic. Punk, Tensai and Bryan is as big of a stars as Triple H, Jeff Hardy and John Cena were in 2008. Its simple logic people

Imagine if the midcard actually had something interesting in it and could actually hold on to more of the viewers form the 3.5 rating the show did in the first quarter. The viewers are aware of the show but they just have trouble holding on to them threwout the show.
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