[Brye]

Originally Posted by the fox

hypocrisy?
i can swear i saw several of thoses marks post nonstop about the rock not being a big draw anymore because he was only gainning 500-700k in his segemnts in the overrun
now they don't care about ratings???

First of all, don't go throwing around that word without knowing what it means first. You go and try to find a post of mine saying something about Rock's drawing ability and then we'll talk.

I'm sure there were a few people that were being legitimate about that, but as JoseDRiveraTCR7 said, I'm sure most of those people were trolling on the oversensitivity of some of the Rock/DRAWZ fans.

(fuck the term marks)

[Coffey]

When was the last time RAW got under a 3?

[Hazaq]

Originally Posted by kokepepsi

6/16

That particular RAW was really weird...

In the segment-by-segment on the 6/16 Raw.

Cena vs. Umaga gained 174,000 viewers which is a lot less than you’d expect from those two at that point in the show. The bikini contest gained 63,000 viewers which is also less than you’d expect from that time slot. Vince making phone calls with Duggan lost 16,000 viewers. Jeff Hardy vs. Carlito and Highlight Reel with Jericho gained 95,000 viewers, low for the 10 p.m. period but still the high point of the show at 3.44. Even though viewers traditionally tune out at 10:15 p.m., one would have thought Flair in the ring and going to a commercial break would have held. But the Flair stuff in the ring and backstage with Jericho, plus Holly & Rhodes vs. Cryme Tyme for 13 seconds lost 174,000 viewers. Burchill & Lea vs. James & Kennedy lost 111,000 viewers. The absolute shocker was the HHH vs. Jericho main event lost 205,000 viewers to a 3.13 overrun. The main event almost never goes down, let alone a match that hasn’t been done in years like that and I can’t give an explanation as to why.

[Elstro1988]

Less reliance on old faces. We've had HHH, Nash, Rock, Jericho and now Lesnar in the top level feuds since July last year (with a side order of HBK). At least involve the up-and-comers/mid-carders more.

With the exception of Heyman....h'd probably breathe new life in, certainly more so than comatose Lawler.

The WWE Champion should be the main event. Not Cena vs (insert name here).

Less "Moments Ago" replays for the love of God. I was watching it when it happened....I don't need to see Josh Mathews get pulverise by Lesnar for the umpteenth time...or Cena attempt to stare down a camera....or Nash belt HHH with a hammer (that segment was replayed so often week in, week out, I could probably still recite it off by heart.)

And at risk of sounding butthurt...either more time than 30 fucking seconds for the Divas...or don't bother at all.


The good thing about Raw at the moment is at least Cena's out of the WWE title hunt (for now), and there are title defences happening on Raw too which keeps it interesting.

[Oh Lymping Hero!]

A complete overhaul of the format, appearance, presenters etc.

Get rid of 'Nice guy' Jerry Lawler, he offers nothing. Hire Roddy Piper, Jesse V, Paul E or Kevin Nash to be color commentator.

Fire Cole and replace him with some new pbp guy.

Change the RAW logo, the set, the look of the ring etc. Lame white ropes are lame.

Give guys more variety in terms of how they are dressed. Too many guys just come out with their merch shirt on and short tights, it looks ridiculous.

Give the more competent guys freedom to say what they want. (CM Punk especially)

Get rid of Johnny Ace, the guy is so mediocre it's painful. This is meant to be the authority figure on par with Vince?

Book more matches between lower/mid card guys and main eventers so the lower guys get a chance to learn more and develop.

[Bob the Jobber]

Faces with edge. No one can relate to a perfect squeaky clean angel.

Also, better booking.

[Vyed]

Originally Posted by the fox

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL



FIRST OVERRUN TO LOSE VIEWERS IN HISTORY

Atleast it was 2.94 somewhat decent.

RAW after TLC, the one headlined by Punk/Bryan/Ryder tag match + overrun did a 2.67 rating (Lowest since 1997).

[Jumpluff]

Every match/feud need story lines, and good ones not bullshit half assed crap with Promo A, Promo B. They are starting to head in the right direction but it needs more. I don't care about PG/Not PG but stories need to be captivating and crazy, superstars need to be larger then life, if you don't cut it you're out no second chances no bullshit.

Heels need to be more ruthless. More backstage shit. Main focus always on the WWE Champ, I don't give a fuck if it's Cena vs Rock or Austin vs Punk or w/e, The title match should always go on last at every PPV ESPECIALLY Wrestlemania. Build up the midcard, build up the tag division, build up the diva's division.

Even the lower card, when people like Hunico/Dibiase are "feuding" If you can even call it that, there should be a story, e.g. Dibiase buys a brand new bike, Hunico steals it and him and Camacho ride out with their bike and Ted's. Ted gets revenge next episode by smashing up Hunico's bike, Next episode Hunico/Camacho gang up on Ted backstage, then someone IDK Curt Hawkins chases them off, then you have a tag match/feud and it's away from the titles, after that you can put them all in a fatal four way tag match with the two teams feuding over the tag titles, be it ladder/regular whatever thus building the lower card/mid card/tag division etc. Not the most creative thing I could have come up with but you see what I'm saying, It's not that hard to attempt to make stories for everyone and I'm just a moron in his underwear at a keyboard that thought of something on the fly and typed, they have sought after and paid writers that can't do their fucking job.

To be honest I have been enjoying the product more lately and have been for a good while but these are things I would get on top of if I was in charge. Everything should be fun not just 1 or 2 segments.

[FlyLikeCat]

Originally Posted by SpeedStick

Storylines for the midcard

YES! YES! YES!

[Isaac Newton]

Originally Posted by Vyed

Atleast it was 2.94 somewhat decent.

RAW after TLC, the one headlined by Punk/Bryan/Ryder tag match + overrun did a 2.67 rating (Lowest since 1997).

Punk's the only one who can pull off diabolical numbers like that.

How can you even call that decent? Even Miz stayed afloat 3.0 in his closing segments when he was the champ.