[The-Irish-Phenom11]

Steady numbers , I think this just proves the point that the WWE draws the viewer and not any specific superstar . That being said RAW was atrocious this week . I say better booking , better storylines will gradually pull in more viewers . My girlfriend watches soap operas here in Dublin , Ireland ,for some reason I was doing a Mick Foley impression typing that LOL , my point is she's watched them for years not for the charachters but for the storylines , as with wrestling the same as her soap operas charchters/superstars come and go , but it's the storylines that keep her and the viewers attracted to the show . I know the people in these shows play a huge part , but if your main commentator keeps telling the viewer how shit a person is that's a WORLD CHAMPION , maybe the viewer will start believing it . WWE'S main problem is not the superstars it's the people booking these superstars !!! AND THAT'S FACT

[A-C-P]

Originally Posted by Brye

Made this the official ratings thread so that we don't need these threads every week.

Thank GOD!!!!!! Your my new favorite Mod!

Originally Posted by Mister Hands

WWE has this many fans. Let's just accept it, folks.

Agreed here, well this is the # of fans that the WWE has that actually watch Raw Live on TV anyways.

[Wrestlinfan35]

Did it really take this long for one ratings thread? Course I'd rather have them banned forever, but props to you Brye. You rock.

Anyway, yeah that's disappointing. But not surprising, these won't grow until after the Rumble. But of course this is all Punk's fault. They should stop showing him on screen for the entire two hours.

[D.M.N.]

Thinking about it - was it really a good idea for WWE to embed the links inside the Twitter thing for many weeks on RAW? Let's take a look at the YouTube hit count for each of the videos - this is normally reliable, so no reason why it wouldn't be here:

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxGkXIphAHw <-- 443,186 views (November 21st - ItBegins2012)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN9FWb0zKm8 <-- 258,083 views (November 28th - second2012)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJoZV7lgxL4 <-- 159,956 views (December 5th - lookwithin2012)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNdd9W5__TY <-- 121,417 views (December 12th - 2012control)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBonwAcDwmc <-- 207,743 views (December 19th - prophetless2012)

The very first, direct, video has 443k views - to put it another way, that's 10% of RAW's audience. The December 12th video only has 121k, that's 3% of RAW's audience. Can you create a buzz from 3 percent of your audience?

Also, outside of wrestling circles, Chris Jericho is not a 'buzz' figure. Okay, he has his music career, but Fozzy is not a big band by any stretch of the imagination outside of wrestling and was not a main figure during the Attitude Era, more of a mid-carder (although this is probably a controversial statement).

EDIT - thanks Brye, have edited my opening post slightly so it's clearer for future weeks.

[JoseDRiveraTCR7]

Originally Posted by nukeinyourhair

1.) The majority of today's fans (little kids) don't stay up past 10PM.

I don't think this is the case. The trend of the 2nd hour being lower than the first only started several months ago. If what you said is true, then the downward rating trend would have started a few years ago.

Originally Posted by The-Irish-Phenom11

Steady numbers , I think this just proves the point that the WWE draws the viewer and not any specific superstar . That being said RAW was atrocious this week . I say better booking , better storylines will gradually pull in more viewers . My girlfriend watches soap operas here in Dublin , Ireland ,for some reason I was doing a Mick Foley impression typing that LOL , my point is she's watched them for years not for the charachters but for the storylines , as with wrestling the same as her soap operas charchters/superstars come and go , but it's the storylines that keep her and the viewers attracted to the show . I know the people in these shows play a huge part , but if your main commentator keeps telling the viewer how shit a person is that's a WORLD CHAMPION , maybe the viewer will start believing it . WWE'S main problem is not the superstars it's the people booking these superstars !!! AND THAT'S FACT

Y iz ur post @ll bold? Me cant readz it.

[Therapy]

Ok... So who is left to blame? Almost the entire roster has been blamed at this point, Cole was blamed, Football was blamed, Holidays were blamed, uhhh... Is there anything else??? Next logical step is for WWE to realize their product overall sucks leaving their remaining audience looking in empty boxes for a fuck to give.

[Rock316AE]

Why you made a ratings thread when it's a different rating and breakdown every week, and then nobody talks about it until the next number comes? Punk fans here are desperate, mods or not.

to the subject, Punk/Ziggler was in the second hour, Jericho was not advertised, so you can say that the concept of the "it begins" was nothing in terms of buzz and interest outside of the internet. football is over next week if I'm not mistaken.

[kokepepsi]

The 2nd hour was all punk/ziggler, Itbegins and Kane/Henry/Swagger vs Ryder/Show/Cena.....

How did it drop?

[D17]

So they lost viewers in an hour which had a heavily hyped return, that was built for months ending up being Y2J, the WWE title match, and a main event involving Cena (as well as generally big names in Big Show and Henry, as well as Kane being initally promoted in the match). Considering how crap the first hour was too.

Not good...

[Starbuck]

Well this week there might actually be a legit claim to blaming it on Punk lol. He was responsible for pulling people in from hour 1 to hour 2. Who knows? Maybe he did and everybody left afterwards. We won't be long finding out when we get the quarter hours lol.