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Old 05-10-2012, 12:33 AM   #2981 (permalink)
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Probably the same place they've always been, being fans of the product and not giving a fuck what the ratings do.

It wasn't a very good match, don't care if it gained six million, I didn't enjoy it.
hypocrisy?
i can swear i saw several of thoses marks post nonstop about the rock not being a big draw anymore because he was only gainning 500-700k in his segemnts in the overrun
now they don't care about ratings???
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:40 AM   #2982 (permalink)
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There is a reason why Steve Austin has been playing down his potential return against CM Punk and is far more interested in facing Brock Lesnar at Mania than any other person on the roster. Obviously, the reason is the money for his return match, which undoubtedly Brock would be significantly bigger on the return than CM Punk. Austin also has an ego where he wants his match to be a big-time draw in the history books of pro wrestling, just so he can say it.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:44 AM   #2983 (permalink)
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Nothing to watch on WWE TV til Money in the Bank, Hell Nothing to watch on TNA TV til King of the Mountain..
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:13 AM   #2984 (permalink)
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hypocrisy?
i can swear i saw several of thoses marks post nonstop about the rock not being a big draw anymore because he was only gainning 500-700k in his segemnts in the overrun
now they don't care about ratings???
I'm pretty sure those posters were trolling to piss off the rocky marks, most of whom are also ratings/buyrate marks.
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:24 AM   #2985 (permalink)
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Even in the overrun, Punk can't draw.......

at 2.9 at the overrun.

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Old 05-10-2012, 02:02 AM   #2986 (permalink)
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There is a reason why Steve Austin has been playing down his potential return against CM Punk and is far more interested in facing Brock Lesnar at Mania than any other person on the roster. Obviously, the reason is the money for his return match, which undoubtedly Brock would be significantly bigger on the return than CM Punk. Austin also has an ego where he wants his match to be a big-time draw in the history books of pro wrestling, just so he can say it.
Cena is the only draw WWE has.
Rock vs Cena was bound to draw
I am not saying Rock can't draw but Rock vs anyone else couldn't have been this big

Austin doesn't deserve Punk
Cena defeats Rock in a re-match at WM 29
Austin vs Cena at WM30
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:31 AM   #2987 (permalink)
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hypocrisy?
i can swear i saw several of thoses marks post nonstop about the rock not being a big draw anymore because he was only gainning 500-700k in his segemnts in the overrun
now they don't care about ratings???
First of all, don't go throwing around that word without knowing what it means first. You go and try to find a post of mine saying something about Rock's drawing ability and then we'll talk.

I'm sure there were a few people that were being legitimate about that, but as JoseDRiveraTCR7 said, I'm sure most of those people were trolling on the oversensitivity of some of the Rock/DRAWZ fans.

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Old 05-10-2012, 02:33 AM   #2988 (permalink)
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When was the last time RAW got under a 3?
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:06 AM   #2989 (permalink)
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Cena vs. Umaga gained 174,000 viewers which is a lot less than you’d expect from those two at that point in the show. The bikini contest gained 63,000 viewers which is also less than you’d expect from that time slot. Vince making phone calls with Duggan lost 16,000 viewers. Jeff Hardy vs. Carlito and Highlight Reel with Jericho gained 95,000 viewers, low for the 10 p.m. period but still the high point of the show at 3.44. Even though viewers traditionally tune out at 10:15 p.m., one would have thought Flair in the ring and going to a commercial break would have held. But the Flair stuff in the ring and backstage with Jericho, plus Holly & Rhodes vs. Cryme Tyme for 13 seconds lost 174,000 viewers. Burchill & Lea vs. James & Kennedy lost 111,000 viewers. The absolute shocker was the HHH vs. Jericho main event lost 205,000 viewers to a 3.13 overrun. The main event almost never goes down, let alone a match that hasn’t been done in years like that and I can’t give an explanation as to why.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:12 AM   #2990 (permalink)
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Less reliance on old faces. We've had HHH, Nash, Rock, Jericho and now Lesnar in the top level feuds since July last year (with a side order of HBK). At least involve the up-and-comers/mid-carders more.

With the exception of Heyman....h'd probably breathe new life in, certainly more so than comatose Lawler.

The WWE Champion should be the main event. Not Cena vs (insert name here).

Less "Moments Ago" replays for the love of God. I was watching it when it happened....I don't need to see Josh Mathews get pulverise by Lesnar for the umpteenth time...or Cena attempt to stare down a camera....or Nash belt HHH with a hammer (that segment was replayed so often week in, week out, I could probably still recite it off by heart.)

And at risk of sounding butthurt...either more time than 30 fucking seconds for the Divas...or don't bother at all.


The good thing about Raw at the moment is at least Cena's out of the WWE title hunt (for now), and there are title defences happening on Raw too which keeps it interesting.
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