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Old 05-08-2012, 06:20 PM   #2911 (permalink)
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One big problem with Taker/Lesnar is that all of their history took place during Taker's ABA/Big Evil gimmick, which WWE has been shy about showing footage of that version of his character in recent years. And they sure as hell couldn't show their staredown at that UFC event a few years ago, as that absolutely destroys kayfabe lol. Then again, WWE could just pretend that they never faced each other, as they seem to be good at doing stuff like that.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:03 AM   #2912 (permalink)
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Speaking of ratings, I think Cena gets way too much credit as a draw. Even when he's there, the ratings are hardly affected and he certainly doesn't bring much buyrates for PPVs that he main events. He's just a merch selling fruit IMO.

And fuck Cena/Rock II, that shit will blow unless Cena turns heel.
Cena is not a draw, he just sells t-shirts to kids. The fact that everything is in the toilet right now (buyrates, ratings) with CENA,CENA,CENA in just about every fuckin main event speaks volumes. Wrestlemania was all the rock.

Not that Vince cares, he killed his big draw ,Brock, that was actually bringing ratings and could create the biggest wrestlemania ever with a match with the rock, just so cena gets a few cheap cheers for a few weeks .
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:10 AM   #2913 (permalink)
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I've seen several of these posters' logic and at the end of the day, they are just arguing for their favorite wrestler to win. I just happen to agree with them on Lesnar squashing Cena opening up better storylines and better gains for both stars but these are the same people who argued for Rock to win.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:24 AM   #2914 (permalink)
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Nah, this is the worst roster in the history of wrestling in every way. Even to things like real life attitude or carrying yourself like a star, nothing. Just a bunch of clueless, uncharismatic, untalented, default choices who think they're on a school trip. Miserable and embarrassing. The only full time stars, legit stars who are not physically huge like Show and Henry and can go into restaurant and turn heads are Cena and Orton. Then they're surprised when less kids are watching wrestling today than ever before? back then the wrestlers were like role models, the "I want to be like him" figure, now the kid is more "cool" than the wrestler, and don't start on the teenagers when the healthy bunch can kick 90% of the roster's ass.
Really this stupid "school trip" crap again? You really think Orton of all people turns heads and gets people's attention outside the ring? GTFO, with that crap. Orton is not a star - only Orton's fans would know who he was if he walked into a restaurant. "Miserable and embarassing" describes the vast majority of your posts and your existence on this board, BTW. I must say, though, you do an exceedingly good job of making yourself look like a complete fool, pretty much every time you post.

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Just for the record, Orton is not the biggest TV draw in the company today, he's the second biggest full time name in the industry but not the biggest TV draw or the biggest draw overall, that's not my point, he was in 2009 and he can easily be again but currently it's Cena with no competition, Henry is the second biggest.
No, he's not and Henry second biggest ratings draw? WTF?

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no they are not, please punk and bryan marks stop saying this, they are not, and i repeat, they are not the most over guys in the company, unless triple h, brock lesnar, john cena, and randy orton just retired
The only ones on that list more over than Punk are HHH and maybe Cena - only in terms of general crowd reaction (boos and cheers) though, because Punk gets bigger pops now.

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Big show is big not a big name.
Orton, lol.
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Henry has proved to be a ratings draw both on smackdown and ECW . Orton, on the other hand, is ratings poison .
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Old 05-09-2012, 07:10 AM   #2916 (permalink)
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Really this stupid "school trip" crap again? You really think Orton of all people turns heads and gets people's attention outside the ring? GTFO, with that crap. Orton is not a star - only Orton's fans would know who he was if he walked into a restaurant. "Miserable and embarassing" describes the vast majority of your posts and your existence on this board, BTW. I must say, though, you do an exceedingly good job of making yourself look like a complete fool, pretty much every time you post.


No, he's not and Henry second biggest ratings draw? WTF?


The only ones on that list more over than Punk are HHH and maybe Cena - only in terms of general crowd reaction (boos and cheers) though, because Punk gets bigger pops now.


Orton, lol.
yes orton is a legend punk is not even in top 1000
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I've seen several of these posters' logic and at the end of the day, they are just arguing for their favorite wrestler to win. I just happen to agree with them on Lesnar squashing Cena opening up better storylines and better gains for both stars but these are the same people who argued for Rock to win.
I assume you're talking about myself and Rocky here? I'll just say that I don't care who wins the match as long as it makes fucking sense. I'm so sick of the inconsistency in WWE's storytelling. For once they need to get their shit sorted and get something right for a fucking change. Given how well Cena/Brock turned out, I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:27 AM   #2918 (permalink)
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WWE managed to fuck up Rock/Cena. The Rock vs. John Cena. Anything is fuck-up-able after that.
For me personally, a lot of the Rock/Cena was a fuck up, but 1.3 million buys proves that it certainly wasn't a fuck up.

However hardcore wrestling fans view the feud is irrelevant. The fact is, it will go down as one of the most successful feuds of all time.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:29 AM   #2919 (permalink)
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I am glad we are SOOOOO worried about next year's WM already when theres 10 months of other programming to dissect before that.

But I guess since WM is the only thing WWE puts any effort into it seems iguess we should only care about it to.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:45 AM   #2920 (permalink)
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agreed with choke about Cena not being much of a draw anymore. Don't even think he sells as many shirts as he used to.

And guys its already decided, we're getting Taker/Trips part 4 at WM 29
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