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Yes. Also because the build suck so much last time, I couldn't bear another 'I'm here and your not, I'm going to do this for all the guys in the back' blah blah blah.
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Well it couldn't be that way a second time. They'll probably pull some bullshit about how Cena had the worst year after Rock beat him and he lost everything. Actually, that would be hell of a story if they actually had Cena lose everything stemming from that loss to Rock that he begs for a rematch to prove himself and wins. But no, the very next PPV he defeats Lesnar and it all goes to shit.

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It's not even about saving the company, it's just the biggest match and Rock and Brock want to work with each other, no other reason and no other match will get even close to the mainstream publicity this match will get, Taker is also a one match guy now so I don't see how he's any different. But I want to see that only if they're trying to rebuild Brock, if not then Rock/Taker is automatically the biggest match(although on that day, nothing can top Rock/Brock in the New York market). If Austin is coming back and wants a real star and a main event spot in a match that would mean something, Lesnar is perfect. You can do Rock/Taker(Rock/Cena is a dead program, no interest at all because they already gave everything people wanted to see), Austin/Lesnar and maybe HBK/HHH.
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But Cena OH SO deserves that victory. So we can all hope he turns heel again...


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It's not even about saving the company, it's just the biggest match and Rock and Brock want to work with each other, no other reason and no other match will get even close to the mainstream publicity this match will get, Taker is also a one match guy now so I don't see how he's any different. But I want to see that only if they're trying to rebuild Brock, if not then Rock/Taker is automatically the biggest match(although on that day, nothing can top Rock/Brock in the New York market). If Austin is coming back and wants a real star and a main event spot in a match that would mean something, Lesnar is perfect. You can do Rock/Taker(Rock/Cena is a dead program, no interest at all because they already gave everything people wanted to see), Austin/Lesnar and maybe HBK/HHH.
I'd personally prefer there to be a little meat on the bones other than MEGASTAR ROCK vs. MEGASTAR BROCK. I kind of like the idea of Brock running through HHH and Cena, holding WWE up until its venerable legend in The Undertaker comes back to put Brock in his place. I'd still like to see Rock/Brock too but really, depending on how this match with HHH goes and given how his match with Cena already went, I don't think Rock is the right fit for Brock. I have my doubts. It's going to have to be a fight in every sense of the word, not a sports entertainment spectacle like Rock/Cena was. There's no way they can do what they did in Brock/Cena in all Brock's other matches and then have him come out and wrestle Rock. That wouldn't make any sense at all and would be hard for people to buy into imo.

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Well Brock won't be doing to Cena to his other opponents.

Taker won't be allowing him to elbow him in the trying make him bleed the hard way. Taker won't be allowing Brock to really knee him very hard in the sides. Either will Rock or others.

That Cena match was a one off.
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I would love Brock/Rock at WM29. It'll be a huge match-up and is going to be great. Then I'd also love Cena/Undertaker as it should have been done years ago. The boos Cena gets in New Jersey (they are very underrated in terms of Cena-hating) will be amazing, specially with Taker getting supported over pretty much anyone.

Speaking of ratings, I think Cena gets way too much credit as a draw. Even when he's there, the ratings are hardly affected and he certainly doesn't bring much buyrates for PPVs that he main events. He's just a merch selling fruit IMO.

And fuck Cena/Rock II, that shit will blow unless Cena turns heel.
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We'll see. Brock isn't here to wrestle remember. He's here to hurt people and cause UTTER FRIGGIN CHAOS lol. He won't be able to do that in regular wrestling matches. Besides, he's already broke HHH's arm. If you think Trips is just going to want to wrestle him then nope lol. This match will be a fight imo. And if there were any 2 guys who would allow Brock to work stiff with them it's HHH and Taker. Sure Taker cut HHH up the hard way in their Mania match and HHH cut the shit out of his back with those chair shots. I don't think they'll have any problem going in there and getting the shit kicked out of them in a match.

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Of course Rock is not going to take a jobber beatdown like Cena got, and HHH is also not doing it. Rock can brawl, it's not the problem, with a hot New York crowd at WM, you don't need blood to create an intense atmosphere. Brock is probably changing his style before WM anyway, I can't see them doing the same type of match with HHH and Orton, they're going to get much more offence and would be just stupid for HHH to agree to take legit stiff shots like Cena did. As for the story, they can go in a lot of different directions, the big success outside of the business, the fact that Rock said that he beat them all and actually never beat Brock etc, "the fate of the company" is just one option. A lot depending on Austin, if he comes back, then he should wrestle Brock in the main event and Rock/Taker, if not, I can't see any reason not to do Rock/Brock and Taker/Cena.
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Of course Rock is not going to take a jobber beatdown like Cena got, and HHH is also not doing it. Rock can brawl, it's not the problem, with a hot New York crowd at WM, you don't need blood to create an intense atmosphere. Brock is probably changing his style before WM anyway, I can't see them doing the same type of match with HHH and Orton, they're going to get much more offence and would be just stupid for HHH to agree to take legit stiff shots like Cena did. As for the story, they can go in a lot of different directions, the big success outside of the business, the fact that Rock said that he beat them all and actually never beat Brock etc, "the fate of the company" is just one option. A lot depending on Austin, if he comes back, then he should wrestle Brock in the main event and Rock/Taker, if not, I can't see any reason not to do Rock/Brock and Taker/Cena.
That's true. As usual I'm letting logic get the better of me and trying to weave one story arc into another which is something WWE can't ever seem to fucking do anymore. I will stand by the fact that Brock has repeatedly said he's back to hurt people and bring chaos though. That doesn't exactly have a full impact if he's having regular wrestling matches with people imo. Then again, they can move away from that to something else if they want. I'm just begging for some form of continuity from WWE these days, especially when it comes to their big angles. A well told story isn't too much to ask for lol.

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