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Old 05-08-2012, 04:40 PM   #2861 (permalink)
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Vince apparently doesnt want UFC star going over his long term investments.

Dont see HHH or orton or even Punk losing to brock if the match happens.
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Vince apparently doesnt want UFC star going over his long term investments.

Dont see HHH or orton or even Punk losing to brock if the match happens.
I get Vince's reasoning for this. And if this is the case then they should put Brock in a couple matches with guys that aren't "long term" investments to go over like Big Show, to not totally destroy his credibility. Although jsut being Brock Lesnar will carry some credibility regardless of how hes booked over the next year.
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I can see HHH going over because technically the story kinda calls for him to go over. At the same time, it will all but kill off Brock. I think when the match does happen they have to take it a step further than Brock/Cena if possible and end it where the match has to be stopped or something, even have Steph run down and throw in the towel or whatever because Lesnar is literally killing HHH. That way Trips can disappear again until Mania, Brock looks uber strong and awaits his next feud. Problem with that is, if the COO and legend HHH can't stop Lesnar, who can? Taker? Rock? Oh wait, Cena already did so maybe Trips will call on Cena to do it again and we get the rematch. I really don't know. HHH can still look strong in defeat but the thing is, they've already fucked up the story of what happens next by having Cena beat him at ER.
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Hour 2 lol

That's what happens when you have Orton/Sheamus vs Jericho/ADR
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I get Vince's reasoning for this. And if this is the case then they should put Brock in a couple matches with guys that aren't "long term" investments to go over like Big Show, to not totally destroy his credibility. Although jsut being Brock Lesnar will carry some credibility regardless of how hes booked over the next year.
But According to Pwinsider, Brock's agreement is that he would only work with the big names as in Cena,HHH,Orton,Rock,Taker etc...

Big show is big not a big name.
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But According to Pwinsider, Brock's agreement is that he would only work with the big names as in Cena,HHH,Orton,Rock,Taker etc...

Big show is big not a big name.
Yeh I know, thus the big problem here the WWE has on their hands. They can't just have Brock lose every match but don't want to put him over any of the guys he agreed to work with. If the report is indeed accurate.
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HHH could still feel the effects of the arm injury. If Lesnar was to lose another match, I would just consider him a Jericho or Kane, and just call it a day. I feel he should win his next match for sure and start moving forward from there.
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Nah, Brock wants to look good and is not a corporate puppet, the power is still in his hands, from what I understand, the only reason he lost is to get the image for the company in case he quits or something(they did irreversible damage with the ridiculous lose but needs to move on), basically something to play in the video packages. Now it's behind them and he needs and I believe is going to win every match, HHH is a smart man and he should want to lose to Brock, ego or not.

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At the end of the day, if Brock is only there to collect his money and doesn't care about what happens with his character etc then I guess Vince can't really be faulted for using him to 'legitimize' or put over his current top guys. For all we know, Rock/Cena II is already the big match for Mania 29 and Lesnar won't even be there and they're just using him to fill the gap between now and then. If that's the case, I can see WWE's POV. At the same time, with every loss Lesnar eats his value diminishes and the impact of the put over for the next guy diminishes also.
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Brock has to go over HHH or his drawing power light goes even further out.

Just put him over HHH for fuck sake. I can't believe we are even having this discussion.
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