[Rock316AE]

A-C-P, Wrong. All you're trying to "prove" in any post here is what I would say about A wrestler in B situation on C timeslot. There's exceptions to every accident, this is the case. please give me the last time the top of the hour quarter was 95% filler and my post where I said something about the wrestler there and I will agree with you. I don't think you can do it because it never happened in the period where you check the breakdown every week. Like I said Orton/Swagger was a short match between two segments and had no effect on Q6. I don't know what you learned here, but I know you're a reasonable poster unlike so many clueless posters in this thread and understands something so simple like that when you don't try to be sarcastic and desperately trying to break any logical point.

Just for the record, Orton is not the biggest TV draw in the company today, he's the second biggest full time name in the industry but not the biggest TV draw or the biggest draw overall, that's not my point, he was in 2009 and he can easily be again but currently it's Cena with no competition, Henry is the second biggest.

[A-C-P]

^ I'll definitely give you the 10PM timeslot from this past Raw b/c I agree totally with you on that and have no idea why the WWE thought what they put in that 15 minutes was a good idea. The rest I guess we should just chalk up to a disagreement.

[Contrarian]

Something for discussion....

-As part of WWE’s First Quarter 2012 earnings report announced on Thrusday, the company released pay-per-view buyrate information for this year’s Royal Rumble and Elimination chamber events.

The Royal Rumble drew 443,000 buys, down from 446,000 buys in 2011, and 462,000 buys in 2010.
Elimination Chamber did 178,000 buys, down from 199,000 buys in 2011 and 285,000 buys in 2010.
Even though the Royal Rumble and Elimination Chamber both did fewer buys in 2012 than they did in 2011, revenue was essentially the same due to more viewers ordering the high-definition feeds of the events, which are more expensive and made up the lost revenue.

As for WrestleMania 28′s buyrate, the official numbers will not be reported until WWE announces its Second Quarter 2012 results in a few months, but WWE CEO Vince McMahon did say that the buyrate is expected to be “nearly 1.3 million pay-per-view buys globally,” indicating the final number might be less than the 1.3 million estimate WWE previously touted.

[ecabney]

Orton lost viewers in a time slot that never loses viewers.

*files and understands*

[kokepepsi]

Originally Posted by Contrarian

Something for discussion....

Ah fuck
What source is that because my PPV numbers for the Elimination Chamber are off and they use buyrate which is the wrong word .......dumbasses LOLPWINSIDEROROTHERNEWZSITES.


Anyways
Melzter had already said that it could be less than the 1.3million or something like that.
1.25 still the same thing.

[The-Rock-Says]

It could be slightly lower than 1.3 or slightly higher. We will just have to wait and see.

But it's already the biggest grossing wrestling event in history. Huge success.

[DesolationRow]

The 10:00 pm segment started up with Cole and Lawler throwing us to a video package about the PPV the night before, then Orton came out around 10:08/10:09 or somewhere like that, and they went to break with Cole chirping, "Another Beat the Clock challenge match! Orton's opponent: Jack Swagger!" Commercial break (and a pretty long one, if I remember correctly). Match didn't really start until about 10:14 or so.

When Cole announced it was going to be Swagger a second before going to a commercial break, I was sure the number for the segment would be lousy. The audience doesn't care about Swagger because WWE's given nobody a single reason to for about a whole year now (almost humorously, he actually did benefit from being involved in the Cole/Lawler build-up last year, as he was in many of the most-watched segments on The Road to Wrestlemania).

Having said that, though, the last Miz/Punk match was in the 10:15-10:30 quarter hour, and based on the booking of both men as well as WWE whipping that horse over and over (they wrestled each other about ten times or so on Raw live for free between the end of August and Wrestlemania), it was about as predictable an outcome as Swagger/Orton. Michaels and Undertaker kicked off Hour 2 that night with a gain of 869,000 and lo and behold, following a lengthy commercial break the segment after that lost 888,000. That's still a bad number and everything but there is the context to consider, in both of these circumstances (Miz/Punk also had a fairly long commercial break in the middle of it, too).

[Rock316AE]

If we are talking huge buyrates, the Floyd Mayweather/Miguel Cotto fight is expected to break every record in PPV history or at worse, be the second biggest. Probably the first boxing fight I'm going to watch in many years, the staredown alone here is selling the PPV:

5:50


And was awesome to hear Buffer(Michael, not Bruce)again...WWE need to bring him for a WM main event one time like WCW did, imagine him announcing Rock and Brock in New York, huge hype.

[Contrarian]

Originally Posted by kokepepsi

Ah fuck
What source is that because my PPV numbers for the Elimination Chamber are off and they use buyrate which is the wrong word .......dumbasses LOLPWINSIDEROROTHERNEWZSITES.


Anyways

Melzter had already said that it could be less than the 1.3million or something like that.
1.25 still the same thing.

Its official number from Q1 results 2012 Press release...




http://www.datafilehost.com/download-1b7b2aca.html

[Chi Town Punk]

In the times of DVRs and Youtube, are ratings really important in 2012? Does it still dictate the way the product is going to go? Are "the ratings" an excuse for not giving certain guys a chance and getting pushes