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Old 01-05-2012, 01:14 PM   #271 (permalink)
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Orton is worse, all things considering.

I guess we're just ignoring the fact that no one on this planet cares about Punk's competition. Nobody likes Del Rio and Ziggler. Nobody. I like Del Rio and I don't even like Del Rio, that's how unover he is, and Ziggler has no charisma at all, and less presence than Colin Delaney and Spike Dudley put together. Miz is a joke too, nobody takes him seriously at all (which is a shame, but it's at least understandable given his look). Not to mention, he had his momentum completely killed by Triple H's storyline, and by Kevin Nash, who he never got revenge on for Jackknifing him 40000 times, undermining his credibility. Not to mention, people are still trying to get over the fact that Punk was a jobber for 5 years, it takes time to get over a thing like that. Hell, Punk has been in the main event for 6 months, and he STILL lost about 4 PPV's in a row. Way to get people to care, job out the guy on the hot streak. Great business.

Orton gets protected like nobody else in the history of wrestling. He worked with Triple H and Cena as his competition constantly, he fought Taker at WrestleMania, he gets to do things nobody else would ever get away with like creepily kissing Vince's own fucking daughter after he DDT's her and saying that Eddie Guerrero is in Hell 4 months after he dies. He's a 9 time world champion, he's never been put into any situation that makes him look bad, and this has been going on since he got here. He's an inexcusably bad draw. Punk would be bigger than Hulk Hogan if you invested the time into him that they've put into Orton. (Not really, but he'd have the ratings on his side, at least)
I know you are usually a little over-the-top in your "love" for Punk at times (in this post to calling him a jobber for 5 years is a bit of a stretch, but after his fued with Hardy he was booked very weak during his time as a heel)and I don't share the same opinions you do on Orton. But this is an exellent post and I hope Punk haters actually read it and don't just chalk it up to just a Punk Mark's stupid post. Great Post, repped.
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:18 PM   #272 (permalink)
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Wrong, Orton/Vince/Shane drew big numbers long before HHH was involved, in fact, if I remember correctly, the highest number of the feud was the big overrun Orton/Vince segment in Chicago(or whatever it was).
Fuck no. HHH was major part of the feud.

This is like crediting austin/JBl/cole for the 4.6 rating their segment drew last year. Everyone knows the real reason was Wrestlemania & the rock returning.
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:42 PM   #273 (permalink)
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Wrong, Orton/Vince/Shane drew big numbers long before HHH was involved, in fact, if I remember correctly, the highest number of the feud was the big overrun Orton/Vince segment in Chicago(or whatever it was).
I'm going to pull a you and hit you with some numbers lol.

The Raw before the Rumble where Orton punted Vince drew a 3.87 and the Raw after a 3.6. The next two weeks got 3.59 and 3.42. The Feb 16th show where HHH got involved got a 4.1 and so did the next week. Then things stayed between 3.6 and 3.8 for the rest of the time until Mania. Don't have anything on any of the overruns but I'm pretty sure all the big segments (Orton punting Vince, HHH coming out, Orton handcuffing HHH and kissing Steph) drew big numbers iirc. That Orton/McMahons/HHH program did really good business for them it seems and was a hot feud.
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Fucking ratings got their fucking sticky thread...
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Which wrestler's segment got the highest rating this week?? I need to know who my new favorite wrestler is....
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Which wrestler's segment got the highest rating this week?? I need to know who my new favorite wrestler is....
John Cena most likely lol.
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I'm going to pull a you and hit you with some numbers lol.

The Raw before the Rumble where Orton punted Vince drew a 3.87 and the Raw after a 3.6. The next two weeks got 3.59 and 3.42. The Feb 16th show where HHH got involved got a 4.1 and so did the next week. Then things stayed between 3.6 and 3.8 for the rest of the time until Mania. Don't have anything on any of the overruns but I'm pretty sure all the big segments (Orton punting Vince, HHH coming out, Orton handcuffing HHH and kissing Steph) drew big numbers iirc. That Orton/McMahons/HHH program did really good business for them it seems and was a hot feud.
No problem man, I said it just from my memory, because this guy said it like Orton wasn't a factor when in fact, he was the main factor, with Vince, Shane and HHH. If I'm not mistaken, Orton/Vince did a huge number, HHH/Orton was hot in the start of the feud but then went down every week, again, If I remember correctly, the HHH/Steph/Orton did a terrible overrun number. I will try to find the overrun numbers(Orton/HHH was mostly in the main segment)
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No problem man, I said it just from my memory, because this guy said it like Orton wasn't a factor when in fact, he was the main factor, with Vince, Shane and HHH. If I'm not mistaken, Orton/Vince did a huge number, HHH/Orton was hot in the start of the feud but then went down every week, again, If I remember correctly, the HHH/Steph/Orton did a terrible overrun number. I will try to find the overrun numbers(Orton/HHH was mostly in the main segment)
You don't have to find the overruns lol. Program was a hot one, nuff said.
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While on the subject of Orton/Trips, I've gotta ask, what the fuck were they thinking with that three stages of hell match?

The heat from their feud was virtually dead at that point and it was such a poorly booked match.
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That seemed to be during their fucked up mentality of letting them beat the shit out of each other at every opportunity except the one that everybody paid for and was expecting to see. **cough** Mania 25 **cough**
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