[Wrestlinfan35]

Well, he's certainly a huge UFC draw. Isn't doing much at all for WWE.

[The-Rock-Says]

How the hell do you know? Have you seen ER buys yet?

[Cookie Monster]

What were the buy-rates for last years Extreme Rules?

[The-Rock-Says]

209,000 buys I think.

If this years Extreme Rules does 300k (considering it's a B show) then it would of done a very good number.

[Cookie Monster]

Not bad actually. I think Extreme Rules 2012 will probably get similar, perhaps 250,000.

[The-Rock-Says]

If it does 300k, then it would of done very good. (Considering it's a B show.)

[Cookie Monster]

Considering the buy rates for Royal Rumble and Elimination Chamber, it would be fucking amazing if it got 300,000 buys!

[Rock316AE]

The Orton match was actually not in the 10pm slot, they started by the end of the quarter and ended into Q6. They started the quarter with the announcers talking about Lesnar/Cena, then Ace backstage segment, then a full commercial break and only then by the end of the quarter the match. Check the Caldwell RAW report in the Torch. Orton probably saved the segment from a disaster number, thank god Punk wasn't there or we would be getting another 800k loss like his last match with Miz.

As usual Lesnar is carrying the show on his back and did the biggest number, HHH also was in that quarter so even if they got extra viewers on him, they lost after that. Then Ace and Cena doing the second biggest number is also not surprising. That's why I guess they're main eventing a PPV.

I don't see the surprise in the Khali gain, the guy is a special attraction to every fanbase for his size alone. Show was also always a big TV draw for that reason. That's what makes wrestling something to watch for a lot of fans.

Let's see what they do next week without Lesnar and his hype, and with Ace/Cena/Albert as the main program.

300k for ER would be a huge success BTW if you look at the position of the PPV.

[A-C-P]

Originally Posted by Rock316AE

The Orton match was actually not in the 10pm slot, they started by the end of the quarter and ended into Q6. They started the quarter with the announcers talking about Lesnar/Cena, then Ace backstage segment, then a full commercial break and only then by the end of the quarter the match. Check the Caldwell RAW report in the Torch. Orton probably saved the segment from a disaster number, thank god Punk wasn't there or we would be getting another 800k loss like his last match with Miz.

I've been waiting to read what excuses you'd come up with for the 10PM slot and Orton since the breakdown was posted and Man you didn't dissapoint

I've had to read you just berate every 10PM segment for the last couple months as "weak" GAINS for only bringing in 50-250K viewers and now a 10PM segment LOSES viewers and it gets a complete pass and b/c Orton was in it, and actually b/c Orton was in the tail end of the segment he SAVED it from total disaster. Not sure how a timeslot, that in your own words (well Meltzer's) Is almost IMPOSSIBLE not to gain viewers in, lost viewers can be considered saved on any level either.

Oh btw the Q6 with the rest of the Orton match in it lost another 245 K viewers, but of course that geot skipped over as well.

Yes but you are completely unbiased and only post facts

[Rock316AE]

Excuse? there's no place for excuses or bias here, all you need to do is look at the position to see that Orton/Swagger wasn't in that time slot. If Orton/Swagger was actually there and was doing terrible, I will say it. For some reason WWE wasted the time where they need to gain viewers on announcers putting the Brock/Cena match over, video packages and commercials. A match that actually starts at the 10pm slot and loses like Punk/Miz? that's a disaster.