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Old 05-01-2012, 07:46 PM   #2711 (permalink)
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Is it me or Is johnny ace really a bigger draw than WWE champion CM Punk?
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just like Vince was a bigger draw than Austin or Rock
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Yeah, Rock and Edge was classic.

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First hour(MEGASTAR Brock) - 4.991
Second hour(STAR Ace) - 4.768
Does this pretty much confirm no Lesnar = no decent ratings?

It's pretty clear looking at recent ratings, that Lesnar is one of only a handful of guys available to the WWE, that can actually draw people in on their own.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:55 AM   #2715 (permalink)
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just like Vince was a bigger draw than Austin or Rock
Yeah but its VINCE FUCKING MCMAHON, the guy who, along with Austin, won the monday night wars. He was just as much part of that success as Steve Austin was.

Johnny Ace is just a joke compared to that, poor man's Eric bischoff and he is outdrawing WWE champion punk consistently lol.
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^ Its not really surprising and I think this past year with Punk was a great example of this. Ultimately its the face characters that make money for the WWE (or at least thats the way it looks) but in my mind the most important guys on the roster are the HEELS. b/c without a "bad guy" that people care about to conquer the face is just not as interesting. When Punk's feuds were with ADR and Miz they didn't really do that great.

Example part of Austin being SO GREAT was b/c he had Vince McMahon and then HHH as his "bad guys" to conquer. And now for w/e reason Ace is OVER as a heel and in turn the programs hes involved in will garner more attenion from the audience as they audience is invested in seeing him "conquered"
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^ Except John cena is the babyface benefiting by going against Johnny Ace, not CM Punk.

Anyways Punk is utter bore these days so whatever...

RAW would have been twice as entertaining if it was DB vs Johnny Ace instead of Cena.

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^ Except John cena is the babyface benefiting by going against Johnny Ace, not CM Punk.

Anyways Punk is utter bore these days so whatever...

RAW would have been twice as entertaining if it was DB vs Johnny Ace instead of Cena.
Yeh not really sure about using the awesome heel heat Johny has created to benefit Cena, but hey Vince is bound determined to make him a face loved by all.

IMO Punk/Bryan as a team feuding with a stable of guys being led by Johnny would be a great future storyline.
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Yes, Lesnar was able to make a difference on his own, week after week the rating and quarter got bigger, until they destroyed him with the most ridiculous booking in wrestling history. Up there with every stupid decision in the history of the industry.

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Absolutely, not like it's a big accomplishment or something but I see Ace in a JR role, JR was always a great TV draw, I don't think Ace is JR level but he's there, that's why he probably gets the most TV time in the company and is going to main event a PPV with Cena over the mid card filler strap that has never been more irrelevant in wrestling history than in this terrible Punk title run. Technically, Ace was also involved in the two highest rated segments of the year so far.

For the guy who said Vince over Rock and Austin, he wasn't but he was probably the biggest TV draw after them during the WWF section of the MNW. If I'm not mistaken, he has the third biggest RAW quarter of all time with a promo on The Rock's history on the RAW before Backlash 2000. In general, every McMahon was a huge TV draw, especially Shane and Vince.

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Thought feuds with authority figures never really draw on PPV anyways ala Vince vs Austin st valentines day massacree Vince vs Hogan WM19 Vince vs Bret whenever that was fuck that match

OTL gonna do 170k buys overall

(before you all get butt hurt those matches did draw but not what would be expected like Vince vs Austin)
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