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Old 04-26-2012, 02:43 PM   #2651 (permalink)
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I wouldn't go jumping the gun just yet, they aren't all that good lol. It's just nice to see them gaining outside the normal slots for a change and 2 weeks in a row no less. Punk/Jericho hasn't had any huge gains on it's own these past few weeks. But the fact that the segments before it were able to gain viewers means that the overall number of people watching at that time ended up higher which is really good for them. More eyeballs are always a good thing. Brock/Cena was a slow starter but it very clearly has people's interest now.
Yeh i guess I am not "jumping the gun" and I hope you didn't take my comment as a negative towards your original post b.c I agree with that post.

I guess my point was more along the lines of (IMO) the last couple shows have been good quality-wise and I am talking like all the way through not just the segments in the "major" quarters and its good to see rating #s starting to reflect that somewhat.

And i apologize buyt this just struck a nerve....

Again with the weak gain at the 10PM slot crap? Seriously it was the 2ND HIGHEST RATED SEGMENT OF THE SHOW! So because people tuned in 15 minutes eariler than the top of the hour (b/c lets face it people Cameltoe = Ratingz!) Jericho and Punk get blamed for a "weak gain" and get no credit for keeping the people that tuned in a little earlier than the top of the hour watching.

Yeh that makes sense
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:48 PM   #2652 (permalink)
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Nice overrun number for the Brock segment, he did the second biggest quarter after the Cena calls out Rock and his return did the biggest with 3.9, they increased the general hype for Lesnar/Cena for ER which is good because it's the only match that matters on PPV.

The horrendous Jericho/Punk feud doing their usual weak, below average top of the hour gain, luckily for them, MEGASTAR Bella drew big on a random segment.

Lesnar continues to gain even in the video package no matter where you put him, his backstage interview a few weeks ago did 450k gain on a filler quarter, full of commercials, that's even more impressive. People are watching for Brock, like the male 70% prove and rightfully so, only thing worth watching, especially on this terrible filler 3 hours for no reason RAW.

ER? it's still one month after Rock/Cena, the biggest money show in wrestling history and one week after one of the biggest fights of the year Jones/Rashad which did a big number BTW with over 700k domestic so hard to know. 300k will be a huge success but it's a one match show in a terrible position, so probably 250k-300k.

The Field Sobriety test segment gained 270,000 viewers to a 3.63 quarter which is one of the best quarters in a while.

Huh? a segment involving Punk and Jericho in a "HORIBLE FUED!" did around the same numbers as all of The Rock segments this year.

You're spot on about the buyrate though, its not going to do too great because of its unlucky positioning, I think it will do decent, maybe better then last years perhaps seemingly because WWE have built this years better and you have such a huge match like Cena V Lesnar.
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It's not, they gained a below average gain for the top of the hour just like they always do. This time the Divas match gained big on a random segment so they got a bigger overall audience.

Last year did 220k if I remember correctly, if it wasn't for the UFC PPV, I would probably say 300k for Lesnar's return but now it's hard to predict, people already paid a lot of money on PPVs this month.
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Yeh i guess I am not "jumping the gun" and I hope you didn't take my comment as a negative towards your original post b.c I agree with that post.

I guess my point was more along the lines of (IMO) the last couple shows have been good quality-wise and I am talking like all the way through not just the segments in the "major" quarters and its good to see rating #s starting to reflect that somewhat.

And i apologize buyt this just struck a nerve....

Again with the weak gain at the 10PM slot crap? Seriously it was the 2ND HIGHEST RATED SEGMENT OF THE SHOW! So because people tuned in 15 minutes eariler than the top of the hour Jericho and Punk get blamed for a "weak gain"

Yeh that makes sense
The last few shows have been better. I wouldn't go calling them good though. Well you know what, maybe I will lol. They haven't been horrible by any means so I guess I can roll with good.

But it is a weak gain lol. I don't see what the problem is tbh. The Punk/Jericho program hasn't set the world on fire in terms of ratings but again, nobody was expecting it to so I don't see what the problem is. These past 2 weeks it has seemed to reap the benefit of whatever went on before it doing a better number than usual which resulted in more people watching when they came on. That's good, great even and especially for them to get over 5 million. That's really good. Doesn't change the fact that it's a weak gain though. Had they put Brock/Cena on there instead, I bet it would have done around the same numbers as it did in the overrun.
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The last few shows have been better. I wouldn't go calling them good though. Well you know what, maybe I will lol. They haven't been horrible by any means so I guess I can roll with good.

But it is a weak gain lol. I don't see what the problem is tbh. The Punk/Jericho program hasn't set the world on fire in terms of ratings but again, nobody was expecting it to so I don't see what the problem is. These past 2 weeks it has seemed to reap the benefit of whatever went on before it doing a better number than usual which resulted in more people watching when they came on. That's good, great even and especially for them to get over 5 million. That's really good. Doesn't change the fact that it's a weak gain though. Had they put Brock/Cena on there instead, I bet it would have done around the same numbers as it did in the overrun.
I can definitely agree that the last couple weeks ther ehave been unsually big gains in the Q8 segments for w/e reasons and the 10 PM segment has defenitely benefitted from a ratings standpoint for sure. I guess my issue is people always looking at and focusing the negative aspect of the 2nd highest rated quarter hour on the program.

These ratings # are just like any statistic (for the most part) if you look hard enough to can spin them to "mean" whatever you personally want them to mean.
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The last few shows have been better. I wouldn't go calling them good though. Well you know what, maybe I will lol. They haven't been horrible by any means so I guess I can roll with good.

But it is a weak gain lol. I don't see what the problem is tbh. The Punk/Jericho program hasn't set the world on fire in terms of ratings but again, nobody was expecting it to so I don't see what the problem is. These past 2 weeks it has seemed to reap the benefit of whatever went on before it doing a better number than usual which resulted in more people watching when they came on. That's good, great even and especially for them to get over 5 million. That's really good. Doesn't change the fact that it's a weak gain though. Had they put Brock/Cena on there instead, I bet it would have done around the same numbers as it did in the overrun.
Peeps really need to stop looking and gains people draw and start looking at actaul numbers people draw. In the second Raw of year Cena (the biggest name in wrestling) V Ziggler drew nearly 500'000 in the overrun, but the number they drew was a 2,9. A horrible number for a overrun. So yeah, People should stop looking at gains because they are very circumstantial considering how many people are consistently watching the show.
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Think about it like this, if Vince was in the ring promoting a Austin segment in 98, Austin comes out, do his promo, do a huge gain, then the Blue Meanie comes out for the top of the hour timeslot and gain another 5k because it's almost impossible to lose in that TV slot for any show(*almost*, like Punk proved in the past), you want to give Blue Meanie a credit for a big quarter? you know the answer.
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Think about it like this, if Vince was in the ring promoting a Austin segment in 98, Austin comes out, do his promo, do a huge gain, then the Blue Meanie comes out for the top of the hour timeslot and gain another 5k because it's almost impossible to lose in that TV slot for any show(*almost*, like Punk proved in the past), you want to give Blue Meanie a credit for a big quarter? you know the answer.
Yeh I get that theory and for w/e reason (i still stand by my cametoe = ratingz) Q8 had a 445K new people tune in, and thats an awesomething for the WWE, but the Q9 slot gets NO credit for keeping those people tuned in at all? And b/c it didn't gain another 500K viewers (which means it would've had 5.6 million total viewers roughly) the segment is a failure?
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Think about it like this, if Vince was in the ring promoting a Austin segment in 98, Austin comes out, do his promo, do a huge gain, then the Blue Meanie comes out for the top of the hour timeslot and gain another 5k because it's almost impossible to lose in that TV slot for any show(*almost*, like Punk proved in the past), you want to give Blue Meanie a credit for a big quarter? you know the answer.
So The Bella Twins are bigger stars then Punk and Jericho? didnt know, considering the fan interaction in the Punk/Jericho segment I could of sworn people would of watched the segment because, I dont know, they enjoy the Punk and Jericho angle.
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270,000 gain is weak for 10 Pm slot. The Divas match saved them.
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