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Old 04-22-2012, 09:54 AM   #2591 (permalink)
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Nah, I will do whatever I want kid. it's not BTW, The only reason it got something like that is because of an Attitude Era star, The Rock. The worst roster in the history of the business, all-time low interest, I guess that's an even bigger compliment for The Rock's greatness to be able to do it now, amazing no doubt.

About buyrates, again you're wrong as usual, with the availability of today in the US alone, at least 10 PPVs in 98-01 would have done more than 1 million domestic easily. Let alone worldwide. Hot B shows were doing 600-700k domestic back then, close or bigger than the WM number.

The industry is still a joke now. Huge props to Vince that he was able to build the WWE machine to keep the brand alive. Although with the current state, it's probably better dead.

More comments, The day after the FPOD:

May 1999:
I find it funny that you constantly belittle other members by calling them 'kid', yet you are the one who cannot move on from his childhood.

We get it, the Attitude Era was great and all that but the company has moved on and if you hate it as much as you say you do I don't why you just don't just stop watching the show. There's plenty of alternatives out there like TNA & ROH.
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I watched Heat all the time when they the big stars on it. I loved the Heat's before PPV's as well as they almost always ran little angles about the main feuds on the show. Heat was great until around late 2001 onwards. But Nitro falling that far is pretty darn wild. Beating WWF forever and then all of a sudden they can't even beat their C show lol. Crazy.
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I don't hate it at all, as a long time fan, and probably will always be a fan unless UFC really starting to interest me the level wrestling was in the past, I can't lie about the miserable state of the industry. No comparison at all to the AE or any other period of time. We all want to see it thrive again but we can't be blind to the obvious.

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I watched Heat all the time when they the big stars on it. I loved the Heat's before PPV's as well as they almost always ran little angles about the main feuds on the show. Heat was great until around late 2001 onwards. But Nitro falling that far is pretty darn wild. Beating WWF forever and then all of a sudden they can't even beat their C show lol. Crazy.
Heat was a great show until September 99 when SD came out, that's when Heat became a video packages show and then later in 2000, taped mid card matches in the SD tapings and WWF New York interviews. Was still a great hype show before every PPV.

LOL at the WWF fans trolling WCW forums back then:
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nice try schiavani, you piece of fucking shit.....but you lose AGAIN. did i
mention that you are a fucking piece of shit?
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Profanity is for those who lack the intelligence to make any sense. This
pretty much sums up the intelligence level of the average WWF fan.
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WARRIOR = Ratings Giant
During the time that the Warrior debuted in WCW, Nitro clobbered Raw 6.4 to
3.1 in the ratings. Thats over double the amount compared to the competition.
Just thought that was interesting.
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Smackdown:
Hour1- 5.4
Hour2- 5.9
Overall- 5.75

Thunder:
Hour1- 1.8
Hour2- 2.1
Overall- 1.95

Smackdown wins by nearly 4 points 5.75 to 1.95
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Haha even then they had rating wars threads.
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May 1999:
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Who cares about the ratings?
Jeez, this topic takes up waaaaaaaaaay too much space here when you
consider what it is really worth.

Let's just assume for the moment that the Neilson Ratings are accurate,
and that our pal Rasslin is correct in saying that more people watch WWF
than WCW.Popularity does not always equal quality. If it did, then you
would have to accept that Michael Jackson is better than The Rolling
Stones, the Beatles, and The Eagles because he has sold more albums
(excuse me while I puke).

I'm not trying to put down Michael Jackson as an artist, despite what I
may think of him personally, he has some talent, and obviously has mass
appeal. But if numbers were all that mattered, then you'd have to say
that his album Thriller is better than Exile on Mainstreet, Abby Road,
and Hotel California. (Granted, Thriller is easier to dance to.)

What I am trying to show here, is that you can not always assume that
greater popularity means greater quality. No matter how good your act
is, there can always be someone who appeals to more people, even if
their act is not as good as yours.

While we're at it, didn't Boxcar Willie outsell pretty much everybody?
The mentality of WWF fans was to rub every quarter hour in WCW's fans until they want to commit suicide, when WCW won, fans were saying that they're number 1, they're better and all that but when WWF won, the fans took it to a different level. Every quarter, every rating lol. WCW fans were the polite bunch.

November 1999:
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Is Russo failing?
Seriously folks, do you think the new WCW can actually work out in the long
term? I don't think it will last long. Crash tv requires great entertainers
that are always fresh. That is something WCW just doesn't have. Bret Hart and
Jeff Jarrett are the closest things they have to the WWF's. Everyone is saying
that WCW will soon take over the ratings, but what are your reasons for this?
In reality, you need some huge names to take the ratings. You need people the
fans will mark out for (I'm talking about names like Austin, the Rock, and
HBK). WCW doesn't have anyone like this at all. Another thing you have to
consider is that for the fans to really attach themselves to these guys, they
must have great gimmicks that are totally unlike everyone elses. Once again,
sorry, WCW doesn't have anyone like this. It took YEARS and YEARS to get
Austin, Mankind, the Rock, HBK, etc... to the level they are at now. WCW
doesn't have years and years to do it. They must do it in a matter of months. I
just don't think it can be done. You can only push someone so fast, and if you
do it too fast the fans will react in a negative way. Russo has recently said
that he will have the Ratings in 6 months. I just don't buy it.
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if anyone can get a no'talent worker over, I think RUSSO is the man to do
it. He has gotten DOA over, Smiley over, and Meng. He made Austin, and the
Rock.
() It is a known fact that WCW always wastes talent. Now they have the
man to form the talent instead of lose it.
January 2000:
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At this Nitro, Hogan, Goldberg and Stig is suppose to return. But WCW
needs to bring them back as soon as possible. It a fact that Hogan is
not good in the ring but the man does attract Ratings. I also notice
when the Rock is doing a interview. Nitro RATINGS DROP. I say When The
Rock comes out and do an interview send out Ric Flair. I woud love to
see who bring in the bigger rating!
The lack of WCW stars could be the
reason why WCW has not hit the 4.0 mark in the ratings... Here is
missing from WCW or have not in the ring in awhile that could help WCW
ratings. Hogan, Flair, Sting, Goldberg, The Cat , Lex has not been in a
match since Starrcade. Eddy, Shane Douglas,Macho Man and GG. Scott Hall
{ scott spend more time out of WCW does he spend in, Why do he get paid
Seven figures.} Scott Norton,Rowdy Roddy piper and TORRIE!!! I think if
they bring back these people or start using them in matches Nitro would
hit that 4.0 rating mark! WCW also need to stop with the dumb Gimmicks,
Like PG-13, Mestro and the list goes on and on. Before I go what happen
to Rhonda Sing?? The last time i seen her she was going to strip, that
was some funny shit!.
July 1998:
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STEVE AUSTIN BREAKS RATINGS RECORD!!
Austin Breaks Another Record for Drawing Power

For a single-night, Steve Austin set a record for biggest ratings impact.
Austin's interview and handicap match on Raw increased the program's total
viewership by 28% and 25% over the previous quarter respectively, for a 53%
total ratings increase. The previous record-holder for biggest head-to-head
Monday night ratings increase was Goldberg, who spiked Nitro's ratings by
nearly 40% on the July 6 Nitro.

In recent weeks, "Stone Cold" has had surprisingly little impact on the
ratings, causing some onlookers to question whether he has been overexposed by
the WWF and had his drawing power suffer an adverse effect as a result. But,
Austin's interview segment drew a 5.6, and his match did a 6.0 (the second best
quarter hour ever for Raw), thus only further serving to prove that he is, in
fact, the biggest draw the wrestling business has seen in years..

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Poor WCW fans.

Anyone who knew anything knew WCW were in trouble in 1998. Them poor WCW fans.
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Its always been that way lol.


WWE/F fans were the juvenile bunch.

WCW fans were more chilled out. Go back and check any old forum and you'll see thats mostly the case.
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Yeah, the WCW fanbase was civil compared to the WWF. Not a good period for them when every week WWF broke another record and they were going down fast no matter what the company did.

As for 98, WCW was still doing huge business at that time, they broke every record in the company, sold out every building including legit 30k paid for Nitro, 400k domestic was their average PPV numbers and house show and merchandise were at all-time peak with nWo, Goldberg, DDP, Wolfpack, Sting, Hogan etc all selling like crazy. In terms of ratings they broke the all-time cable TV wrestling record time after time with the peak for the replay of Goldberg/DDP from HH 98 with 7.2. Business was hotter than ever in every aspect so nobody knew. As a fan, you could tell that things are not doing good in June-August 99, that's when the real downfall begun.
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Yeah, the WCW fanbase was civil compared to the WWF. Not a good period for them when every week WWF broke another record and they were going down fast no matter what the company did.

As for 98, WCW was still doing huge business at that time, they broke every record in the company, sold out every building including legit 30k paid for Nitro, 400k domestic was their average PPV numbers and house show and merchandise were at all-time peak with nWo, Goldberg, DDP, Wolfpack, Sting, Hogan etc all selling like crazy. In terms of ratings they broke the all-time cable TV wrestling record time after time with the peak for the replay of Goldberg/DDP from HH 98 with 7.2. Business was hotter than ever in every aspect so nobody knew. As a fan, you could tell that things are not doing good in June-August 99, that's when the real downfall begun.
Nah, Id say you just didn't do your research enough. They were probably trolling WWF fans too during WCW's 84 week winning streak over the WWF.

I always thought it started when Nash began booking himself in the Main Event.
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