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Old 04-21-2012, 08:31 AM   #2581 (permalink)
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Cena is the only non-has been big time draw they have. I dont think he's killing anything.
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unless your a stock holder you should care about Ratings i mean damm
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Just for the comment above and half of this thread with "WHY YOU CARE ABOUT RATINGZ!!?", things will never change...July 1998:
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Ratings War

Why does everybody care about the Ratngs so much? I figure that if your a true
wrestling fan you should be stoked that there arer two such high caliber shows.
USA and TnT use the ratings to sell advertising spots. I dont think the
quality of a Fed is dependent on how many JVC kaboom box commercials there are.
If you really give a shit about the ratings that much, than watch seifeld
instead of wrestling. All of the people who care sooo much about ratings are
probably the same ones who have every Steve Austin T-shirt sitting in there
closet, because when you boil down to it you're all just Ted Turner's/McMahon's
tools.

Thats my opinion and if you don't like it I dont give a damn
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You're right. Most people seem to think ratings = better show. And
while I won't deny that RAW has been a better show the past month or
so, doesn't mean much. And it doesn't mean much that WCW won the
ratings war practically all of last year. I think the McMahon/Bischoff
pot shots got everyone riled up in the ratings fiasco... and I wonder if
they realize how many wrestlingholics' minds they've poisoned with that
crap.
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Why the ratings really mean so much...

Why do the ratings really mean so much to the WWF and WCW? Simple... The more
fans you have, then the more people there will be buying the PPV's. The WWF's
recent domination of the ratings says something. WWF.com reports that early
numbers for the Royal Rumble have it being the at least the 2nd most ordered
pro wrestling PPV of all time. WrestleMania 5 holds the record with 719,000
buys. The WWF Royal Rumble will end up with somewhere around 700,000. It's only
a matter of time before we find out if the PPV you WCW fans are calling a
"flop" is really the most sucsessful wrestling PPV ever. Even if it's not, it
still beats out anything WCW has EVER aired on PPV. It must be noted that the
Royal Rumble got more than DOUBLE the buys than Starcade '98 did (WCW's biggest
PPV). One can only imagine the monsterous buy rate Wrestlemania will get. We
may very well be looking at around the one million mark for this huge PPV. So
you see, tv ratings DO mean something.
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Raslin my boy don't you ever learn.

Ratings are all about demographics, that's why
the WCW gets almost 50% more dollars per hour than the wwf.

The WCW audience is made up of mostly high and intelligent salary earners
who have a lot of money to spend.

The wwf audience attracts the blue collar and red neck brigade whose net
salary is a lot less that the other audiences.

As some one who is the advertising game it is the products target audience
that gets the buck. This is also why wwf can't go to three hours they
simply can't attract the advertising dollar to sustain the 3 hours.

Thats it in nutshell.

Raslin you are so dumb you can't even figure this out, I don't want to be
disrespectful but once again you have demonstrated your ignorance about ratings,
demographics and the whole darn match!! You Lose!!!

Learn the business, talk the business. do the business!!!
Miss those days, miss this business and miss this fanbase *depression*. I'm more nostalgic now because I was more into Jones/Rashad than anything in pro wrestling besides Rock/Cena. What a sad state this industry is in right now.

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Miss those days, miss this business and miss this fanbase *depression*. I'm more nostalgic now because I was more into Jones/Rashad than anything in pro wrestling besides Rock/Cena. What a sad state this industry is in right now.
Do us all a favour and leave then. And posting stuff about ratings from 1999 just further establishes you being out of touch. Its 2012, a fuck load of the televsion industry has changed thanks to the digital evolution. Despite avredge ratings WM 28 was the most bought and watched PPV in wrestling history, more then any Attitude Era PPV. the wrestling industry is very healthy despite what you keep telling yourself.
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Nah, I will do whatever I want kid. it's not BTW, The only reason it got something like that is because of an Attitude Era star, The Rock. The worst roster in the history of the business, all-time low interest, I guess that's an even bigger compliment for The Rock's greatness to be able to do it now, amazing no doubt.

About buyrates, again you're wrong as usual, with the availability of today in the US alone, at least 10 PPVs in 98-01 would have done more than 1 million domestic easily. Let alone worldwide. Hot B shows were doing 600-700k domestic back then, close or bigger than the WM number.

The industry is still a joke now. Huge props to Vince that he was able to build the WWE machine to keep the brand alive. Although with the current state, it's probably better dead.

More comments, The day after the FPOD:
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FOLEY WINS RATINGS!!!
Despite WCW mocking Foleys title victory,Bischoff must be kicking
himself in the ass right now.He has a huge Nitro with the return of
Hogan and the nWo coming back together but it is still not enough as
Mick Foley walks away with the belt and a 5.75 to 4.7 head to head
victory in the ratings.
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Yeah, and hopefully Ted Turner is kicking him also... Right out the door.
Maybe he can then find work in the WWF as on of McMahon's goons.
May 1999:
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RATINGS ARE IN!! NITRO IS DEAD HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

Head to Head Ratings:

WWF RAW.........5.9.......6.9......Composite........6.4
WCW NITRO.......3.4.......2.8.......Composite.......3.1

HAHAHHAHAHAHA Just pathetic! THE BIGGEST BEATING IN THE HISTORY OF MONDAY NIGHT
WRESTLING BREAKING THE RECORD THE WWF SET THREE WEEKS AGO! NO ONE IS WATCHING
THAT CRAPPY NITRO ANYMORE CAUSE IT IS ABSOLUTE HORSE POOPY!!! THE THIRD HOUR
WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO GET THE HIGHEST RATINGS GOT A SORRY 2.8 HAHAHAHHAHAHA!
WHAT A JOKE. NITRO IS OFFICIALLY DEAD! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO ADMIT YOU WATCH
THAT CRAPPY SHOW!! YOU'RE NOT EVEN WORTH TROLLING ANYMORE! I AM ACTUALLY
FEELING SORRY FOR WCW........NOT!!! BWHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!
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OK i agree, WCW really SUCKED big time the only thing i watched on Nitro was
Sting and Goldberg and the Hardcore match cause, Hardcore is just kick ass but,
one thing i went to a wrestling site and it has all the ratings since Nitro and
RAW started and well here is some bad news, over the years WWF has gotten
killed by WCW, cause RAW had only around 60 wins over Nitro and well Nitro has
beaten RAW more then 200 times, i almost stopped counting at 100 and there was
alot more to be counted.
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I was shocked at the 2nd hour ratings of 6.9 to 2.8. Raw crushed them. Raw for
a change put on a better show than Nitro. I was so bored by
Nitro.
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FUCK YOU!!!!!!! YOU ARE A LITTLE ASSHOLE, HAVE NO COMMON SENSE, AND YOU DON'T
BELONG ON THE NG!!!!! NO LITTLE KIDS HERE YOU LITTLE SHIT.

RATINGS DON'T MATTER, QUALITY WISE. I'VE GIVEN EXAMPLES OF WHY RATINGS ARE NOT
ACCURATE ON THIS BOARD MANY TIMES.

IF 25,000 PEOPLE WITH NIELSEN BOXES WATCHED WRESTLING, 20,000 WATCHED WWF, AND
5,000 WATCHED WCW, WCW WOULD GET KILLED IN THE RATINGS. IT WOULD BE 10.0 FOR
WWF AND 2.0 FOR WCW. BUT, THEY'RE NOT ACCURATE. WHO KNOWS, MAYBE THE PEOPLE
SAMPLED DON'T LIKE WCW. BUT DON'T SAY THAT STUFF YOU LITTLE FUCK.

YOU'LL SEE IN MY QUOTE WHAT WWF FANS DO:

WWF fans steal Nielsen boxes ()

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Nah, I will do whatever I want kid. it's not BTW, The only reason it got something like that is because of an Attitude Era star, The Rock. The worst roster in the history of the business, all-time low interest, I guess that's an even bigger compliment for The Rock's greatness to be able to do it now, amazing no doubt.

About buyrates, again you're wrong as usual, with the availability of today in the US alone, at least 10 PPVs in 98-01 would have done more than 1 million domestic easily. Let alone worldwide. Hot B shows were doing 600-700k domestic back then, close or bigger than the WM number.

The industry is still a joke now. Huge props to Vince that he was able to build the WWE machine to keep the brand alive. Although with the current state, it's probably better dead.

More comments, The day after the FPOD:

May 1999:
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Top Cable Shows
RATINGS FOR WEEK OF 8/7/00 - 8/13/00

Source: Nielsen
RANK PROGRAM NETWORK U.S. RATING DAY
1 WWF Entertainment USA 7.0 Mon
2 Movie: Running Mates TNT 5.6 Sun
3 WWF Entertainment USA 5.5 Mon
4 Movie: The Truth About Jane LIF 4.7 Mon
5 NASCAR: Global Crossing ESPN 3.8 Sun
6 Rugrats NICK 3.6 Mon
7 Rugrats NICK 3.5 Mon
7 Real World IX MTV 3.5 Tue
9 Movie: The American President TNT 3.4 Sat
10 Rugrats NICK 3.3 Mon
11 Rugrats NICK 3.2 Mon
11 Rugrats NICK 3.2 Sat
13 Rocket Power NICK 3.1 Tue
13 Rugrats NICK 3.1 Sun
13 Rugrats NICK 3.1 Mon
16 Spongebob NICK 3.0 Sat
16 Movie: The American President TNT 3.0 Sun
16 Spongebob NICK 3.0 Sat
19 Rugrats NICK 2.9 Mon
20 Movie: Striptease TNT 2.8 Sun
20 Movie: Hard Target USA 2.8 Tue
20 Rugrats NICK 2.8 Wed
20 Spongebob NICK 2.8 Sun
20 Rugrats NICK 2.8 Sun
25 Rocket Power NICK 2.7 Tue
25 WWF Sunday Night Heat USA 2.7 Sun
25 WCW Monday Nitro Live! TNT 2.7 Mon
25 Rugrats NICK 2.7 Mon
25 Movie: Big Jake TBS 2.7 Sun
25 Rocket Power NICK 2.7 Tue
25 Rocket Power NICK 2.7 Tue
25 Catdog NICK 2.7 Sat
25 Hey Arnold NICK 2.7 Mon
25 Dexter's Laboratory TOON 2.7 Tue
The 7.0 is the second hour. Amazing what happened to WCW in 2 years, they had almost 5 from the top 7 almost every week in 98 with Nitro and Thunder.
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^^^^ at Heat beating Nitro lol.
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Rugrats bringing in them ratings.

Tommy Pickles is a fucking draw.
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Nitro losing to Heat in mid 99 was fine, Heat was still a big show with almost all the stars every week, but Nitro losing to 2000 "Taped mid card matches and PPV commercials" Heat is another story lol.
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