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Old 04-10-2012, 06:49 PM   #2291 (permalink)
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Maybe if you're counting long term careers(by this logic, Taker is a bigger star than Steve Austin), but nobody did it on his level in the history of the sport. Yes, win-loss record is a huge part in the position but if you can't draw for your big fights, can't promote them and sell PPVs, you're not a star. Brock could lose 10 fights in a row if he can still draw the biggest numbers and he did it with Overreem in December. It's all about drawing power in the PPV business and UFC is a PPV business.
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..Lesnar, dafuq?
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As far as MMA stars go, he's nowhere near the top. I guarantee you there are hundreds of fighters that have made more money for the UFC than Brock. And that's not even what makes you a star in that SPORT.
You know nothing.

4 out the top 6 PPV buyrates in UFC history were main evented by Lesnar, he is BY FAR the biggest draw they have EVER, and will EVER have.

Not opinion, fact.

He made the UFC an insane amount of money.
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As far as MMA stars go, he's nowhere near the top. I guarantee you there are hundreds of fighters that have made more money for the UFC than Brock. And that's not even what makes you a star in that SPORT.
Please name the "Hundreds" that have outsold a Lesnar UFC Event. There's a reason why he was the cover athlete of the UFC game over the "Hundreds" as you say that have more mainstream appeal than Lesnar does.
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Please name the "Hundreds" that have outsold a Lesnar UFC Event. There's a reason why he was the cover athlete of the UFC game over the "Hundreds" as you say that have more mainstream appeal than Lesnar does.
Chuck Liddell had about 25 fights in the UFC. I bet those added up to quite more than Lesnar did in his six fights. I said more money overall, not from just one event.

I understand that his PPVs drew well but this is a sport and talent factors into it as well. Not saying it's everything, but it has much to do with it.
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Like I said in the Raw thread. It doesn't matter how many stars you have on a show if the writing is complete ass. They need to make it so that the whole show from top to bottom is interesting not just when Rock, Brock, Cena or Punk is on.
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Top ten highest buy rates in UFC history.....

Position Date Event Buyrate
1 7/11/2009 UFC 100: Lesnar vs. Mir 2 1,600,000
2 7/3/2010 UFC 116: Lesnar vs. Carwin 1,160,000
3 12/30/2006 UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz 2 1,050,000
4 5/29/2010 UFC 114: Rampage vs. Evans 1,050,000
5 10/23/2010 UFC 121: Lesnar vs. Velasquez 1,050,000
6 11/15/2008 UFC 91: Couture vs. Lesnar 1,010,000
7 12/27/2008 UFC 92: The Ultimate 2008 1,000,000
8 1/31/2009 UFC 94: St-Pierre vs. Penn 2 920,000
9 8/8/2009 UFC 101: Declaration 850,000
10 3/27/2010 UFC 111: St-Pierre vs. Hardy 850,000


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I think I've figured it out people. Last week was actually able to hold viewers for most of the show and then pop a huge gain at the end. Solution to falling ratings? DAT HOT CROWD DURR
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Top ten highest buy rates in UFC history.....

Position Date Event Buyrate
1 7/11/2009 UFC 100: Lesnar vs. Mir 2 1,600,000
2 7/3/2010 UFC 116: Lesnar vs. Carwin 1,160,000
3 12/30/2006 UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz 2 1,050,000
4 5/29/2010 UFC 114: Rampage vs. Evans 1,050,000
5 10/23/2010 UFC 121: Lesnar vs. Velasquez 1,050,000
6 11/15/2008 UFC 91: Couture vs. Lesnar 1,010,000
7 12/27/2008 UFC 92: The Ultimate 2008 1,000,000
8 1/31/2009 UFC 94: St-Pierre vs. Penn 2 920,000
9 8/8/2009 UFC 101: Declaration 850,000
10 3/27/2010 UFC 111: St-Pierre vs. Hardy 850,000


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THAT'S NOT WHAT THE UFC IS ABOUT.
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THAT'S NOT WHAT THE UFC IS ABOUT.
Doesn't change the fact that he draws big time for PPV. UFC PPV anyways. WWE, that remains to be seen of course.
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