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Old 04-05-2012, 03:39 PM   #2211 (permalink)
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400,000 - 500,000 used to be/still should be the norm for 10pm and is probably what they are aiming for every time. So anything below that is shitty. When they do a big angle in there it usually delivers numbers around that mark or does even better than that depending on what it is. So a 100,000 - 200,000 gain isn't very good at all, that's why they keep saying it.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:40 PM   #2212 (permalink)
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With the opener with The Rock doing a 3.6, the Punk and Henry match doing a 3.5, the ending with Lesner doing a big 3.9, and with the segments before and after them not losing much/staying even, how was this show not a 3.5?
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As much as I like Lesnar, the reason why the overrun did so great was mostly because of Cena and his storyline with The Rock, more precisely the resolve of their match. Lesnar appeared only in the last three out of fifteen minutes at the end, people were interested about the outcome at WM and how Cena would react, I doubt a million of extra viewers had some instinct that would magically tell them that Lesnar would be in the last three minutes, especially since unadvertised returns of huge stars are extremely rare nowadays.
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As much as I like Lesnar, the reason why the overrun did so great was mostly because of Cena and his storyline with The Rock, more precisely the resolve of their match. Lesnar appeared only in the last three out of fifteen minutes at the end, people were interested about the outcome at WM and how Cena would react, I doubt a million of extra viewers had some instinct that would magically tell them that Lesnar would be in the last three minutes, especially since unadvertised returns of huge stars are extremely rare nowadays.
Cena potentially losing his shit = ratingz. I wonder what will happen when he eventually does lol. I'll say it before and I'll say it again, heel Cena is something that can truly reinvigorate the WWE and flip it on it's head.
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400,000 - 500,000 used to be/still should be the norm for 10pm and is probably what they are aiming for every time. So anything below that is shitty. When they do a big angle in there it usually delivers numbers around that mark or does even better than that depending on what it is. So a 100,000 - 200,000 gain isn't very good at all, that's why they keep saying it.
Except this week it was only about 100k down from the opening segment with The Rock. So that's not a bad number. They're not going to magically find 200k other people who didn't already tune into the show before hand, to see Henry/Punk. This week's 10 spot did good. I don't think it's a shitty gain when realistically, the most it could've gained would be 200k.

If Tensai's match lost viewers instead of staying even, and Henry/Punk gained the viewers that match lost, it would be considered a good number. Even though the same amount of people watched the Henry/Punk match. Makes no sense to me, tbh. Instead of calling the 10 spot a bad gain, we should be congratulating Tensai for keeping viewers interested and sticking around.
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400,000 - 500,000 used to be/still should be the norm for 10pm and is probably what they are aiming for every time. So anything below that is shitty. When they do a big angle in there it usually delivers numbers around that mark or does even better than that depending on what it is. So a 100,000 - 200,000 gain isn't very good at all, that's why they keep saying it.
Not fair to say because the gain in viewership isnt really important as the overall viewership number.

On the RTWM Rock and Cena were gaining 500'000 to 600'000 how ever the actual number they were hitting were 3.5's/3,6's. Considering Henry and Punk are no way near established as those to are and hitting numbers that are nearly the same/not that far behind as the numbers Rock and Cena were drawing is very good.
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Yeah, most of the audience probably didn't know Lesnar signed or was going to debut Monday night. Most just wanted to see Cena's reaction and if the feud between him and the Rock would continue.
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Not fair to say because the gain in viewership isnt really important as the overall viewership number.

On the RTWM Rock and Cena were gaining 500'000 to 600'000 how ever the actual number they were hitting were 3.5's/3,6's. Considering Henry and Punk are no way near established as those to are and hitting numbers that are nearly the same/not that far behind as the numbers Rock and Cena were drawing is very good.
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Except this week it was only about 100k down from the opening segment with The Rock. So that's not a bad number. They're not going to magically find 200k other people who didn't already tune into the show before hand, to see Henry/Punk. This week's 10 spot did good. You can't say it's a shitty gain when realistically, the most it could've gained would be 200k.

If Tensai's match lost viewers instead of staying even, and Henry/Punk gained the viewers that match lost, it would be considered a good number. Even though the same amount of people watched the Henry/Punk match. Makes no sense to me, tbh. Instead of calling the 10 spot a bad gain, we should be congratulating Tensai for keep viewers interested and sticking around.
It's a shitty gain. It doesn't matter how it holds up against the other segments on the show. 10pm is a time when people are flipping over from other shows and should be stopping, seeing whoever is on Raw at that time and staying put to watch them. That's why they tend to put a lot of big segments with the big stars on in that particular slot because other than the start and the end, it's one of the easiest places they can gain a huge number of viewers. If they're only able to get less than 200,000 people then it's a shitty gain, simple as that.
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Except this week it was only about 100k down from the opening segment with The Rock. So that's not a bad number. They're not going to magically find 200k other people who didn't already tune into the show before hand, to see Henry/Punk. This week's 10 spot did good. I don't think it's a shitty gain when realistically, the most it could've gained would be 200k.

If Tensai's match lost viewers instead of staying even, and Henry/Punk gained the viewers that match lost, it would be considered a good number. Even though the same amount of people watched the Henry/Punk match. Makes no sense to me, tbh. Instead of calling the 10 spot a bad gain, we should be congratulating Tensai for keeping viewers interested and sticking around.
I wanted to add this as well with my post, just didn't have the time to write it out like this, so thanks .

The overall veiwership # is ALOT more important than the gain at the 10PM slot. so b/c the segment with Tensai managed to keep viewers tuned in, the resulting smaller gain for the 10PM slot is looked at as bad? Seems like bad logic to me. To me this means fewer people switchedd off Raw btw 9 and 10 so in turn fewwer of them had to tun back in at 10PM. By this logic if 5 million people were watching at the beginning of Raw and Raw lost no viewers throught stayed at 5 million the whole show for every segment (I know its not going to happen jsut an example) The focus would be the shitty no gain at the 10PM slot and not the fact that they were able to keep 5 million viewers tuned in for the whole show?

But honestly my biggest problem is not if its a shitty gain or not my issue is they've reported it that way the last 10-12 weeks as a shitty gain so does it really still need to be said? was my main issue.
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