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post #2071 of 9175 (permalink) Old 03-21-2012, 09:31 AM
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I just dont think there is enough action between the major feuds. Cena/Rock, TripleH/Undertaker, Jericho/Punk are all very talk heavy feuds. There are no cheap shots, brawls, no sneak attacks.
Its the same formula week after week where they get a segment and just talk. At this point you dont expect anything to happen until they actually have the match.
Face Vs Face feuds generally dont involve brawls and cheap shots. You need a definitive heel for that.

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Okay this is really really worrying.

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They advertised the Rock throughout the show from the start.
Talking about commercials. New fans who watch just for the Rock(alot did last year) won't know by watching the show, only wrestling fans will. They didn't advertise enough IMO as it was hard to know he was going to be there any of the Raws if you didn't pay attention or go on one of these forums.
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Face Vs Face feuds generally dont involve brawls and cheap shots. You need a definitive heel for that.
Austin/Rock for X7?

And one of the face feuds involves 2 guys who have openly expressed their beefs with one another week after week.

A 3.1 is a horrible rating for the second to last Raw before Mania featuring major players, no matter how the apologists try to spin it.

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You know, The Rock is a mega-star. He truly is. But is there a chance that the reason the numbers aren't better is because people see him as a movie star now and not a wrestler anymore? Like, maybe to some people this is no different than any other celebrity coming in and wearing out their welcome. I mean, that is kind of ridiculous, but I could see someone making that argument.

When I run into a lot of ex-wrestling fans; the people that were all aboard the bandwagon during the Attitude Era, they never ask about The Rock. They always ask about or talk about or reminisce about Stone Cold Steve Austin.

C.M. Punk is the future, for sure, and I don't know how good of an idea it is to be having him take a back seat like this. How big would Austin's star have risen had he never beaten HBK in the main of Mania 14 with the Tyson involvement? Punk/Austin I think could be a mega-draw, more so than Rock/Cena, if for no other reason than because the non-physical parts, aka promos, are going to be SO much better. It's not going to be about Twitter and gay jokes..

I don't see any reason why WWE won't be able to get Sting next time around and run Sting/Taker if they want too.

It's not that WWE doesn't still have options, it's that the TV is so bad, people have stopped caring.

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Punk can't draw, Rock can't draw.
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You know, The Rock is a mega-star. He truly is. But is there a chance that the reason the numbers aren't better is because people see him as a movie star now and not a wrestler anymore? Like, maybe to some people this is no different than any other celebrity coming in and wearing out their welcome. I mean, that is kind of ridiculous, but I could see someone making that argument.

When I run into a lot of ex-wrestling fans; the people that were all aboard the bandwagon during the Attitude Era, they never ask about The Rock. They always ask about or talk about or reminisce about Stone Cold Steve Austin.

C.M. Punk is the future, for sure, and I don't know how good of an idea it is to be having him take a back seat like this. How big would Austin's star have risen had he never beaten HBK in the main of Mania 14 with the Tyson involvement? Punk/Austin I think could be a mega-draw, more so than Rock/Cena, if for no other reason than because the non-physical parts, aka promos, are going to be SO much better. It's not going to be about Twitter and gay jokes..

I don't see any reason why WWE won't be able to get Sting next time around and run Sting/Taker if they want too.

It's not that WWE doesn't still have options, it's that the TV is so bad, people have stopped caring.
I think that, as Starbuck said, the way they are booking this feud has hurt it's appeal. Yes, they are indeed booking it as Dwayne Johnson vs. John Cena, not THE ROCK vs. John (SUPER) Cena. Instead of booking it as "What will happen when JOHN CENA - the man who overcomes everything, the man who has beaten everyone in his path - fights THE ROCK - a living legend?!" it is booked as "Watch John and Dwayane air their personal grevences against each other in segment after segment"

People are still going to buy the match, as interest has proven to be huge. But do people want to watch the build? Not really. Not anymore.

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They really need a "shocking moment" to hype ratings post WM
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Punk can't draw, Rock can't draw.
Last years Mania begs to differ.

Here's the thing people have to remember. Rock Austin it doesn't matter they only bring a spark nowadays.

If Austin Punk started in February and the match finally occurred next April that spark would be long gone too.

Rock's return worked last year but it's not going to work this year because it is a year old and we have seen 14 promos out of the 2.

WWE needed to bring in Shaq for the ratings but they didn't and now are paying the price of relying on a stale feud.

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