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Old 03-20-2012, 06:45 PM   #2041 (permalink)
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Hour 1 - 4.490m
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An hour with Rock, Cena, Triple H, The Undertaker and Shawn Michaels only doing that much? Oh my God..

But Punk's still to blame.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:50 PM   #2042 (permalink)
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An hour with Rock, Cena, Triple H, The Undertaker and Shawn Michaels only doing that much? Oh my God..

But Punk's still to blame.
Nobody is blaming Punk. In fact, nobody has been blaming Punk at all recently. His program isn't doing stellar numbers but nobody expected it to do stellar numbers. Most people are discussing Rock/Cena and HHH/Taker. Enough with all this belated, "Punk's still to blame," crap. Nobody is blaming him for anything. When Rock/Cena and HHH/Taker started, the responsibility shifted to them to produce the goods. So far that hasn't happened to the degree that it should and that is what people are discussing these days, not Punk.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:55 PM   #2043 (permalink)
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I was only kidding. I know nobody's blaming Punk, just having a bit of fun since this thread for a solid few months was filled with posts like that. I'm not blaming anyone, tbh. Not Rock, Cena, or anyone else. All this recent ratings news does is prove my original point that wrestlers don't draw, storylines draw. Even with a stacked hour like that, if it's not interesting TV nobody is going to watch it. The RTWM has been insanely underwhelming and it's translating pretty clearly.
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ok lets blame HHH then. since he came back ratings havent been great
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MANIA build has been lackluster tbh. Honestly, I think people are and for a while, have just just been waiting to bank on the actual matches themselves come mania.
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ok lets blame HHH then. since he came back ratings havent been great
Honestly if it weren't for his storyline with Michaels and Taker, the numbers would be a whole lot worse.
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Mostly the Cena/Rock feud isn't bringing the goods. HHH/Taker actually has had a really strong build, probably the most consistent out of the main events. Jericho/Punk has been ok, but no spectacular. As Starbuck pointed out though, that's really all anyone expected out of it and that's really all WWE needs it to be. Nobody was looking for Punk or Jericho to carry this show. Sheamus vs. Bryan build has been pretty much non-existent, which is unfortunately par for the course when it comes to WHC matches.

That leaves Cena Rock. The match that was supposed to carry ratings, Wrestlemania, and business in general. This feud has felt like these guys talking past each other for some time now. We get a segment about Cena putting his nuts in Rock's face, followed by Rock calling Cena some variation of a homo. Rinse and repeat. I think that creative expects the Rock to just carry this feud by virtue of being THE ROCK, but even he needs something to work with. Even the Rock can't carry a 30 minute meandering segment about Cena's lady parts. It feels like there is no real narrative to this feud (again, compare it to HHH/HBK/Taker) and just lots of segments.

That's not to say WM won't do well. I think it will. But god help this company if they can't even make Rock vs. Cena segments seem interesting.
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WM will draw a million buys

Raw ratings depends on how Cena's character is post WM
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I was only kidding. I know nobody's blaming Punk, just having a bit of fun since this thread for a solid few months was filled with posts like that. I'm not blaming anyone, tbh. Not Rock, Cena, or anyone else. All this recent ratings news does is prove my original point that wrestlers don't draw, storylines draw. Even with a stacked hour like that, if it's not interesting TV nobody is going to watch it. The RTWM has been insanely underwhelming and it's translating pretty clearly.
I get that it's a fad to do it now but really, nobody is blaming him or has been blaming him for anything for quite some time now. I think your point about wrestlers not drawing, only storylines doesn't fully explain things either. You can have the best angle in the world but if it's between Yoshi Tatsu and Tyson Kidd, nobody will give a fuck. The same storyline between John Cena and Triple H will produce far better results. You need the right people in the right angles. HHH/HBK/Taker is an example of having the right people in the right angle that is building a story and hyping a match. Rock/Cena up until last night really has been the right people in the wrong angle, an angle so far removed from what it was originally supposed to be and an angle that sought to put each guy over individually rather than put the storyline over and promote the match collectively. It has clearly been turning people off hence the low numbers. Jericho/Punk was never even in the discussion to pull any sorts of big numbers either. It's a B level PPV main event tbh. To have this match, Rock/Cena, and have it not do anything close to what it was doing a year ago is all the proof you need that something somewhere went very seriously wrong. Right people. Wrong angle. No results.

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Unlike Punk however, HHH can be blamed for anything. If a child dies in Africa it's somehow his fault lol.
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One things for sure I don't think we'll ever see a match get announced a year in advance ever again.

I can see why WWE thought it would be a great idea, but it hasn't panned out.

Numbers suck right now but if Wrestlemania's buyrate delivers I'm sure Vince will take it.
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