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Old 03-15-2012, 06:43 AM   #1981 (permalink)
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Not a good number by Rock standards, not a good number for the show overall for the RTW. The interest is not there, Cena blabbing for the entire year about how Rock is never there killed the aura of the program and his kayfabe breaking BS doesn't draw for the general audience like it has been proven in the past so many times. While HBK/Taker/HHH is doing big gains, the overall number is not impressive at all, I wasn't expecting the numbers of last year because that was all Rock's buzz and it's not going to be on that level after they drove away million viewers. LOL, the Punk/Miz series continue to break records everytime, Vince needs to put them on PPV just for the comedy.

Meltzer said that ratings are not good indicator for the buyrate but I don't buy it, last year Rock drew 7.3 million viewers for his segment in Chicago and the minute I saw that, I knew they're going to do big business. I still believe that if the card wasn't so embarrassing, they would have done the WM record last year in Atlanta because wrestling was hotter since the Trump angle and relevant since the Benoit tragedy.

Rock's star power is doing a great job with the gates so and WM28 is going to be the biggest gate in the history of the business so that's another record for his resume no matter what happens with the buyrate. The goal is obviously million buys.
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:17 AM   #1982 (permalink)
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And once again these morons didn't tell the audience that Rock is going to be there next week
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good to see punk/miz loosing that many viewers this week
they have to get it into their heads that punk/vs miz DOES NOT DRAW
and undertaker/trips programm is the biggest draw as of now
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I don't think going into the show the writers wrote up the Punk/Miz match to DRAW TEH RATINGZ. It was more or less just a way to let Miz sink lower going into Mania and a way to escalate the Jericho/Punk feud.
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CM Punk vs. The Miz then lost 888,000 viewers - which is the biggest segment drop in a while.

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Taker/Trips is by far the best thing they're building up. Coincidentally, it was the match so few people wanted to see. What's largely the reason for this? They're old school guys who know how to provide that psychology, emotion and intensity surrounding a match that takes it from being good to amazing. This is something Rock has evidently forgotten how to do and Cena has never known how to do.
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It looks like that Taker/HHH is the biggest match not Rock/Cena and the sad thing is that if wrestlemania hit 1 million buys Rock/Cena will get the full credit for it.
I agree
Taker-HHH is so much better than Rock-Cena

Unless Rock-Cena produces something Big,on the long term this feud is a waste
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Notice how the only interesting parts of the show involve veterans.

Taker/HHH/HBK

3 veterans who know how to play out a storyline, cut promos and get the fans interested.

Rock/Cena

Rock - Veteran. Knows what he's doing, knows how to build anticipation and entertain the fans.

Cena - Being unprofessional, dragging the feud down by breaking kayfabe and trying to devalue his opponent. Cares more about trying to one up The Rock than entertaining the fans and putting on a good feud.

Jericho/Punk

Jericho - Veteran. Adds meaning to feud and tries to make it serious.

Punk - Has only just started selling the feud and treating Jericho seriously.

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Seriously, these veterans are holding up their feuds and the show. They are literally the only interesting thing in the WWE. And Taker/HHH/HBK/Jericho/Rock are all either retired or no longer full time wrestlers. So WWE are definitely screwed once they leave again and they are left with the amateurs.

The entire roster is just full of rookies who don't know what they're doing.

It's no wonder the WWE just had its worst ratings year since 1997.
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Notice how the only interesting parts of the show involve veterans.

Taker/HHH/HBK

3 veterans who know how to play out a storyline, cut promos and get the fans interested.

Rock/Cena

Rock - Veteran. Knows what he's doing, knows how to build anticipation and entertain the fans.

Cena - Being unprofessional, dragging the feud down by breaking kayfabe and trying to devalue his opponent. Cares more about trying to one up The Rock than entertaining the fans and putting on a good feud.

Jericho/Punk

Jericho - Veteran. Adds meaning to feud and tries to make it serious.

Punk - Has only just started selling the feud and treating Jericho seriously.

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Seriously, these veterans are holding up their feuds and the show. They are literally the only interesting thing in the WWE. And Taker/HHH/HBK/Jericho/Rock are all either retired or no longer full time wrestlers. So WWE are definitely screwed once they leave again and they are left with the amateurs.

The entire roster is just full of rookies who don't know what they're doing.

It's no wonder the WWE just had its worst ratings year since 1997.
at Cena being a "rookie" hes been on WWE TV for 10 years now (and a full-time pro wrestler longer than The Rock was), but your points about him in this current fued do hold some merit.

Punk/Jericho have both been doing a good job with their fued just haven't gotten a whole lot of TV tiem to develop it after WC.

As for the segment breakdown nothing really surprising here except for the low viewer loss in the 2nd quarter and the only 500,000 gain for the lfinal segment + overrun
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I feel like I need to see a priest or take a long, hot shower, but in any case I have to admit I completely agree with RockAE316 about WWE/Cena taking the entirely dead wrong course over the last year since Wrestlemania XXVII in the "light build-up" to this (Rock vs. Cena). (Also, every time I think of RockAE316 saying Cody Rhodes looks like a stork, I laugh a little.)

What's killing this is that there's no urgency to any of it, especially with what they're either giving The Rock to do or casting him as in this program. That video package bit with Cena saying Rock has other options and WWE immediately flashing up him going to movie premieres and talk shows or whatever was absolutely the wrong route to take in all of this. The last thing casual fans needed was constant reminders that Rock can go straight back to Hollywood (and will) when this is over. Psychology is an important part in any feud and psychologically, WWE/Cena/Rock (in that order, I guess) have obliterated the buzz and as Rock316AE put it, the "aura" of both Rock himself and the program in general.

Triple H/Undertaker/Michaels is a textbook study in how to book a storyline. They're all fucking old as the hills and either can't or won't be put into physical altercations with one another, hell, they don't even have matches with other people on TV, but they are knocking this angle out of the park. Like Starbuck, I was originally rather vehemently opposed to this rematch happening but I'll be damned if they haven't performed masterfully in selling it to me.

Rock's original, pressing and crucial motive for singling Cena out in his "return promo" 13 months and a day ago has been completely buried by WWE (buriedz forever!!!!``1).

Since we're evaluating these two disparate programs, here's a hypothetical image to think of. Imagine WWE finally pulls the trigger on Cena vs. Undertaker and when they're finally in the ring together, Cena smirks while Undertaker's cutting a promo about ripping his soul from his body. Heh.
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