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post #1761 of 9175 (permalink) Old 03-06-2012, 08:45 PM
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I just want to hear some honest ideas on how WWE can change the ratings within their power.



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They should move Daniel Bryan and Henry over to RAW, turn one face and have them feud over the title. They'll be back in the 5.0 area in not time. There's been reports that the reason they scrapped that match for WM is they didn't want them outshine the rest of the big matches.
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I just want to hear some honest ideas on how WWE can change the ratings within their power.
People have been giving ideas all along. I don't know how many times I and others have talked about WWE's need to involve the younger stars with the older ones to get them exposure. WWE's stop-start pushes, non existent storylines, non existent midcard, non existent charcters, formulaic and dry as fuck programming. All of that is talked about all the time and how things are never going to change so long as these things stay the way they are. Stuff like this is talked about all the time in here yet it gets lost in the multitude of retarded mark wars.

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I just want to hear some honest ideas on how WWE can change the ratings within their power.
They had a very big opportunity that they just flat up passed on.

Shaq. Granted it's a short term spark plug but there's nothing wrong with that especially if you actually had Cena Rock and Punk Jericho rolling.

The product hasn't been that bad the last few weeks you're just not going to grow unless you get people interested in the 1st place.
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People have been giving ideas all along. I don't know how many times I and others have talked about WWE's need to involve the younger stars with the older ones to get them exposure. WWE's stop-start pushes, non existent storylines, non existent midcard, non existent charcters, formulaic and dry as fuck programming. All of that is talked about all the time and how things are never going to change so long as these things stay the way they are. Stuff like this is talked about all the time in here yet it gets lost in the multitude of retarded mark wars.
I agree with what you're saying. But when people are claiming it's the worst roster every, I can't tell if they mean the talent or the booking. Because in my eyes the talent is there. It's just that the people at the top aren't losing to the people coming up. And when the lower guys do win, it's ridiculously underhanded. The stop start pushes for heels is fucking embarrassing and the lack of storylines on Smackdown is even worse.



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The ratings around MITB weren't even high though were they? My point is that was creative story telling at its best and if that doesn't generate ratings and neither does the big names then you what else can they do
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The ratings around MITB weren't even high though were they? My point is that was creative story telling at its best and if that doesn't generate ratings and neither does the big names then you what else can they do
Creative story telling was good in parts then but the midcards were still fairly awkward. I think the midcard has a bigger effect on things than people think. Same with tag teams considering any of my friends that used to watch wrestling immediately talk about how they miss the Hardys, E&C and Dudleys.



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I'd suggest that what WWE's creative process truly needs is either the removal of Vince's veto power, or the introduction of a Veto Vince power.



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I agree with what you're saying. But when people are claiming it's the worst roster every, I can't tell if they mean the talent or the booking. Because in my eyes the talent is there. It's just that the people at the top aren't losing to the people coming up. And when the lower guys do win, it's ridiculously underhanded. The stop start pushes for heels is fucking embarrassing and the lack of storylines on Smackdown is even worse.
It's the booking, it's the talent, it's creative, it's having an aging Vince McMahon being the sole caller of shots, it's the fucking God awful commentary that destroys everybody else to put over Michael Cole, it's the developmental system, it's the effect of no competition, it's the residual effect of the death of the territories, it's everything. Nobody is going to prosper in that environment, at least not to the degree they need them to. All this change everybody keeps talking about, none of it is going to mean anything if the root of the problem isn't solved first. CM Punk can scream about being and brining change until he's blue in the face but if the rest of the company isn't prepared to move with him, it's all for nought.

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It's the booking, it's the talent, it's creative, it's having an aging Vince McMahon being the sole caller of shots, it's the fucking God awful commentary that destroys everybody else to put over Michael Cole, it's the developmental system, it's the effect of no competition, it's the residual effect of the death of the territories, it's everything. Nobody is going to prosper in that environment, at least not to the degree they need them to. All this change everybody keeps talking about, none of it is going to mean anything if the root of the problem isn't solved first. CM Punk can scream about being and brining change until he's blue in the face but if the rest of the company isn't prepared to move with him, it's all for nought.
I think the best thing for WWE is for this Wrestlemania to flop and flop hard. If they only bring in say 300,000-450,000 buys it would wake Vince up big time.



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