[Mr White]

WCW 2000 numbers......It Begins...

[TheAussieRocket]

I agree with the Attitude Era is gone and it wont come back stuff.
I mean smackdown, ever since it was created Smackdown! was pg, it doesn't matter about the ratings of a TV show. I bet you can make a kids movie than is better than an R-Rated movie? It's just WWE is just in a rebuilding stage at the moment. What they do need is decent crowds and I think that the WWE has put a belt on Ryder, Punk and Bryan to try and get a reaction from the fans. But no. The Crowds are dull. When Kane returned, I thought a tumbleweed rolling across as Kane made his way to the ring, when The road dogg Jesse James returned I swear to fuck I heard crickets.
Oh and what about Bryan Grandmaster Sexat Christopher? I'm not even going to mention that RAW.

Crowds need to stop sitting on their asses, folding their arms and just watching. WWE is more enjoyable when the crowd is fired up. I bet ya if The Rock returned with a shit reaction from the crowd... it wouldn't been a great comeback as it was. Y2J got a decent reaction when he returned aswell, CM punk chicago MITB was one of the loudest of 2011. But that was like a Mid-Card Pop in the Attitude era.

I think that's what the Attitude Era marks are missing, the pops, the noise and the chants. WWE doesn't need/want Attitude Era shenanigans. It just needs good crowds. That is my opinion anyway because I enjoy and I get excited for RAW when there is a really crowd on the show.

[ohhudidntkno]

I stopped watching wrestling shortly after the invasion angle and started watching again this past year because my son is now into it.. I wouldnt say the attitude era was really that vulgar.. maybe some more swearing and blood.. the big difference is the booking.. The mcmahon family characters were more important to the attitude era than the wrestlers... the storylines were much better.. there were actually heels.. cole gets more heat than any wrestler does now... I think they need to bring back stables... every week on raw something new was happening people turning on each other. it is much harder to turn a individual heel when he stands alone as a face or vice versa..

[Adramelech]

1) Ratings are not "gradually declining longterm". Broadcast television is a medium in decline and WWE ratings simply reflect what is going on in the rest of the industry. Viewership numbers are rock solid.

2) I don't think you understand how television ratings work or what they mean.

3) Reverting back to a product model that was successful nearly fifteen years ago is not in any way, shape or form a method by which one can increase modern interest in something.

Originally Posted by Apokolips

Same reason people watch old movies and music because what we got these days suck balls

Please learn what nostalgia is.

[Mr Eagles]

Originally Posted by Boss P

But that's the problem. Movies and music today doesn't suck balls at all. It's the greatest music ever recorded.

You don't believe me?

Ask your 13 year old cousin.

What, you're opinions are more correct than his? Maybe today, yeah, but fast forward ten years and a bunch of his generation peers start writing for Pitchfork.com...

CM Punk, John Cena, Randy Orton...greatest era ever.

Repped. Glad someone see's the light

[Loopee]

You can't bring back an era without it seeming like a cheap knock off.

And you shouldn't be cloning eras. You should be creating new ones. The Ruthless Aggression one was pretty cool, imo.

[CMojicaAce]

Originally Posted by Mr White

WCW 2000 numbers......It Begins...

Except WWE has no competition.

[Gamblor]

The last week show... it's interesting, but if people did tune out after the first minute or two, then that's all on Laurinaitis and nothing on Punk. People could have heard Punk's music, seen Mr. Executive Vice President of Talent Relations, and turned the channel. This is the first time that a Punk segment (not match) did pretty poorly in comparison to the usual, so I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

We'll never know without minute to minute breakdowns, but oh well. Even if that segment opened with a 4.5, people would still say Punk isn't/can't draw. :shrugs:

[Azuran]

Originally Posted by CMojicaAce

Except WWE has no competition.

Which makes the numbers even sadder.

[Art13]

Originally Posted by HitItLikeABongoDru

Being over doesn't mean someone is a big draw, guys like Orton, Ryder, Sheamus etc. are all over with the crowds but that doesn't mean they are draws to those people who flip-flop between watching Raw or something else. I'm not saying anyone is or is not a draw btw just saying live crowd reactions and drawing power are not the same thing

Yes, true, but with all things considered, I would think Punk would be doing a little better than he is ratings wise, I don't expect him to be a "huge draw", but I also wouldn't expect his segments to do terribly either and if I'm being honest, right now they are.

Originally Posted by rkomarkorton

this only pertains to cm punk right? let me guess if orton was champ it doesnt matter how over he is he just isnt a draw right? but punk on the otherhand is.

LOL, where did this come from? I don't really give a shit who or who isn't a draw, all I care about is being entertained. The only reason I'm commenting on Punk's ratings is because I find it a little unusual and I'm certainly not the type to try and discredit a wrestler I don't like because HEZ NOT A DRAWWW!!, those people are pathetic. Did Orton's last WWE title reign do poor ratings? Great, I don't remember, probably because I don't really care, but it's good to know WWE isn't overly concerned about ratings, considering Orton's position.