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Nothing he said was false. It's not really bashing.
So how come other people backstage praise the rock?
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Punk needs to look at Rock's point of view on that one.

He's not one of the boys, and he's a busy guy. He's not necessarily blowing them off, but the guy has other things going on too.

I'm not seeking out a bunch of d bags who run to the media every time they feel they've been disrespected either.
Yeah, the guy who shows up to RAW on those few nights a year DESPERATELY needs to get back right to the movie set after RAW is over, right?

Bull fucking shit.

If he shows up one night on RAW, it's not like he doesn't have all the time in the world. He's backstage. He has just as much time as other guest hosts do, and probably ALOT more time then Cena does, and yet Cena still manages to stick backstage, and to my knowledge, actually HELPS talent backstage, instead of saying "Hey, I have no time. Sorry bout that. Catch you in about 6-7 months in my next appearance where I may or many not be able to answer your questions."

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Bashing or not, the fact remain he disrespect The Rock and whine over little matter just because he doesn't hello.

Agree with you GillbergReturns.
I doubt Punk has a problem with the Rock disrespecting him. But don't YOU think it's a bit disrespectful when Rock blows off a new guy, possibly the future of the business, WITHOUT giving him/her advice? I don't know about you, but that's why guys like Taker are considered leaders backstage. Cause they HELP out, no matter what. Rock? No, right to limo, right to ring.

Of course, all of this might have changed ever since Punk gave that interview, and if that's true, that's terrific. It's nice if Rock's giving young talent some personal experiences and advice.


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Yeah, the guy who shows up to RAW on those few nights a year DESPERATELY needs to get back right to the movie set after RAW is over, right?

Bull fucking shit.

If he shows up one night on RAW, it's not like he doesn't have all the time in the world. He's backstage. He has just as much time as other guest hosts do, and probably ALOT more time then Cena does, and yet Cena still manages to stick backstage, and to my knowledge, actually HELPS talent backstage, instead of saying "Hey, I have no time. Sorry bout that. Catch you in about 6-7 months in my next appearance where I may or many not be able to answer your questions."



I doubt Punk has a problem with the Rock disrespecting him. But don't YOU think it's a bit disrespectful when Rock blows off a new guy, possibly the future of the business, WITHOUT giving him/her advice? I don't know about you, but that's why guys like Taker are considered leaders backstage. Cause they HELP out, no matter what. Rock? No, right to limo, right to ring.

Of course, all of this might have changed ever since Punk gave that interview, and if that's true, that's terrific. It's nice if Rock's giving young talent some personal experiences and talent.
Why would the rock give advice to a bunch of guys who are insecure and jealous of him?
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So how come other people backstage praise the rock?
Oh, you mean guys who worked with him in the attitude era like Triple H, Chris Jericho, Jim Ross, etc? Yeah, the guys who were part of the "boys" alongside the Rock in the locker room back when he was wrestling every week?

Yeah, I wonder why

Maybe the newer talent would have a fonder opinion of him if, you know, he actually stuck around and talked to them?


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Yeah, the guy who shows up to RAW on those few nights a year DESPERATELY needs to get back right to the movie set after RAW is over, right?

Bull fucking shit.

If he shows up one night on RAW, it's not like he doesn't have all the time in the world. He's backstage. He has just as much time as other guest hosts do, and probably ALOT more time then Cena does, and yet Cena still manages to stick backstage, and to my knowledge, actually HELPS talent backstage, instead of saying "Hey, I have no time. Sorry bout that. Catch you in about 6-7 months in my next appearance where I may or many not be able to answer your questions."



I doubt Punk has a problem with the Rock disrespecting him. But don't YOU think it's a bit disrespectful when Rock blows off a new guy, possibly the future of the business, WITHOUT giving him/her advice? I don't know about you, but that's why guys like Taker are considered leaders backstage. Cause they HELP out, no matter what. Rock? No, right to limo, right to ring.

Of course, all of this might have changed ever since Punk gave that interview, and if that's true, that's terrific. It's nice if Rock's giving young talent some personal experiences and talent.
You expect The Rock to be a full time wrestler and Hollywood movie actor at the same time? That is impossible. The Rock got less time than John Cena. For example, he have to travel around the world to promote his movie Journey 2. That is also what other actors does. The other guest hosts only got one appearance on Raw.

Just because The Rock doesn't talk means he is disrespectful? What kind of bullshit is that? If anyone really want advice then they should take the initiative and approach The Rock, not The Rock approaching them.

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Why would the rock give advice to a bunch of guys who are insecure and jealous of him?
Alright, first off, I doubt EVERY SINGLE guy in that locker room is jealous of the Rock. Hell, some of them are probably major fans of his. Of course, some probably aren't, and actually ARE jealous of him, but don't help those douchebags out than. Help the guys out who actually want advice from you.

And you assume that there are none of these "jealous" types who are jealous of top guys like Cena and Punk? Of course there are, and yet THEY still probably help them out if the need it.

Jealousy is a stupid excuse. Try again.


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Oh, you mean guys who worked with him in the attitude era like Triple H, Chris Jericho, Jim Ross, etc? Yeah, the guys who were part of the "boys" alongside the Rock in the locker room back when he was wrestling every week?

Yeah, I wonder why

Maybe the newer talent would have a fonder opinion of him if, you know, he actually stuck around and talked to them?
Maybe there's the akwardness of them being outshined by a hollywood actor/legend that makes them feel insecure. If punk was so desperate for advice he would ask the rock for it instead of disrespecting his legacy and acting like his shit doesn't stink all because he's been over for less than a year. Fuck that The Rock has put over so many young guys over the years and has given years off service to help WWE, but in return he gets his loyalty questioned, and a bunch of guys who don't feel comfortable about him being in the main event at mania. I don't know about you but I rather stay away from envious people than to interact with them. Lets not forget young up comers in the wwe need to approach the vets not the other way around. I didn't hear any stories of Austin giving advice to the younger guys but since he's punk's favorite he would never mention that.
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You expect The Rock to be a full time wrestler and Hollywood movie actor at the same time? That is impossible. The Rock got less time than John Cena. For example, he have to travel around the world to promote his movie Journey 2. That is also what other actors does. The other guest hosts only got one appearance on Raw.

Just because The Rock doesn't talk means he is disrespectful? What kind of bullshit is that? If anyone really want advice then they should take the initiative and approach The Rock, not The Rock approaching them.
(A) Oh for fucks sake. READ before commenting. I DON'T expect him to come back to the ring full time and NEVER said he would, and neither did Cena or Punk. Yet, the days the Rock is in the city of where RAW is taking place doing nothing but probably tweeting and riding his limo's around the city, he doesn't have time to spare to talk to talent? Again, bullshit. It's manageable to wrestle (in Rock's case make a few appearances a year), and do media promotion and STILL be able to talk to talent. Hell, Cena does it with a full time wrestling schedule.

(A) Yes, COME UP TO HIM. Don't expect for him to come up to you. But wait, how can they go up to him, he's kinda always gone and out sight....


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Maybe there's the akwardness of them being outshined by a hollywood actor/legend that makes them feel insecure. If punk was so desperate for advice he would ask the rock for it instead of disrespecting his legacy and acting like his shit doesn't stink all because he's been over for less than a year. Fuck that The Rock has put over so many young guys over the years and has given years off service to help WWE, but in return he gets his loyalty questioned, and a bunch of guys who don't feel comfortable about him being in the main event at mania. I don't know about you but I rather stay away from envious people than to interact with them. Lets not forget young up comers in the wwe need to approach the vets not the other way around. I didn't hear any stories of Austin giving advice to the younger guys but since he's punk's favorite he would never mention that.
Then again, MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, there ARE wrestlers backstage who WANT to talk to the Rock, and you know what, he isn't there. Punk isn't desperate for advice, I don't know what type of advice he would want when he's already at the top. He was most likely referring to Rock and the younger talent.

Oh yeah, cause you know, the Rock putting over other talent was because of him. Bullshit. It was because he was on his way out, and he HAD to. It's more of a tradition then it is Rock's will. He wanted to go over Lesnar because he let him go over clean at SummerSlam.

First off think of this guy who shows up, and then is automatically in the main spot at WrestleMania despite the fact that he only shows up a couple times a year. Wouldn't you be pissed if that happened? Of course there's a business reason behind it, but I sure as hell would still be pissed.

Again, the envious people won't come up to you. They're going to be talking behind your back without reason cause their pricks, but again, IF Rock DID actually stay backstage, maybe they would approach him....


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There's no point in blaming The rock or Cena or even HHH/taker/hbk for poor ratings. You can only rely on these superstars of the past for so long before the nostalgia wears off and people dont care anymore.

The real problem is Vince mcmahon being out of touch. Lack of long term planning. Mr.Mcmahon obviously prefers instant spike in ratings and buyrates which is why even after a whole year, there is not one single guy from the current roster that has been built up to draw on his own. The Miz & punk were the two guys last year, who came really close to making to the next level but were stopped dead on tracks instead, in favour of the absolute top names in the WWE. The Miz was fed to Cena and punk's whole push became a colossal clusterfuck because vince decided to stick with the original plan HHH-taker for mania, as a result of which HHH was not turned heel. So much wasted potential, damn shame!

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