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Old 02-28-2012, 11:04 PM   #1531 (permalink)
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No need for that, Without Rock this show is doing below 3.0, same thing for next week. But without competition and with real star power on the show like HBK/Taker/HHH they should do bigger. Rock is not going to turn a dead product for two years in a row, he did it last year, single-handedly, they fucked it up. Meanwhile he's doing blockbusters, still nobody got more than him BTW, 4.0 in November, let's see if they can do bigger.
Hopefully the Daytona 500 did come into play. I do think's there's a signifant overlap between those 2 fanbases so I do that could be a possibility.
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I guess it's safe to say that the rock is not a draw.
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Reallistically speaking Rock garnered an additional 50,000 on that PPV.
It can be realistically argued that Rock accounted for 64,000 additional buys depending on how much stock you want to put in year-to-year trends based on a relatively small statistical sample. As such, there's a decent margin of error, but 64K is within the ballpark.

EDIT: Regarding the Daytona 500/RAW connection... obviously there's a correlation between the two fanbases or John Cena would never have been named the honorary starter and Carl Edwards would never have shown up on RAW. I've never been a big believer in slavishly following (and reading too much into) week-to-week RAW ratings though. Doing that was one of the things that killed WCW.

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No need for that, Without Rock this show is doing below 3.0, same thing for next week. But without competition and with real star power on the show like HBK/Taker/HHH they should do bigger. Rock is not going to turn a dead product for two years in a row, he did it last year, single-handedly, they fucked it up. Meanwhile he's doing blockbusters, still nobody got more than him BTW, 4.0 in November, let's see if they can do bigger.
Yeah because they had so much trouble doing a 3.2 last week without The Rock

Rest of your post was alright
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They're not wrong about Survivor Series though.

Survivor Series was a 15% increase when all the surrounding PPV's decreased 10%.

Reallistically speaking Rock garnered an additional 50,000 on that PPV.

It's not world breaking numbers but no tag match will get you that.

I do agree with you that wrestling is diminshed market no matter whose in it. It's not a Punk or Cena thing. The interest in wrestling just isn't there anymore.
No, but they were wrong in assuming that it's going to bring in record buys, which it didn't. Racking in 30,000 buys compared to last year is impressive, no doubt. But Punk did that too for MITB.

My only problem with some marks on here is the fact that they ride his dick thinking he's the greatest of all time in terms of drawing, and if you make a claim like that, back it the fuck up. And again, don't bash guys like Punk without a reason, when the Rock is doing the same thing, and when Rock DOES it, don't say the stuff we did defending Punk and expect it to be passed when Rock marks denied it.

Although, you've been great though. If only there were more Rock fans like you around here, who realize, that YES, Rock DOES have limits, and he's not the greatest when it comes to drawing power.

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No need for that, Without Rock this show is doing below 3.0, same thing for next week. But without competition and with real star power on the show like HBK/Taker/HHH they should do bigger. Rock is not going to turn a dead product for two years in a row, he did it last year, single-handedly, they fucked it up. Meanwhile he's doing blockbusters, still nobody got more than him BTW, 4.0 in November, let's see if they can do bigger.
Ohhhh, a 3.1 vs. a possible 2.9 rating that we would have gotten this week without him, you know 0.2 increase. That's a huge increase right Rocky? Nice drawing prowess

Give me a fucking break. Loads of us said the EXACT same thing during the Summer of Punk last year. We told you to give it time (before they completely fucked it up with the HHH/Nash angle) but of course, you had Rock's semen all over on your face, so all you did was call bullshit. Was the dick sucking worth it now that Rock is losing viewers and not much greater then the average roster in terms of drawing power?
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No, but they were wrong in assuming that it's going to bring in record buys, which it didn't. Racking in 30,000 buys compared to last year is impressive, no doubt. But Punk did that too for MITB.

My only problem with some marks on here is the fact that they ride his dick thinking he's the greatest of all time in terms of drawing, and if you make a claim like that, back it the fuck up. And again, don't bash guys like Punk without a reason, when the Rock is doing the same thing, and when Rock DOES it, don't say the stuff we did defending Punk and expect it to be passed when Rock marks denied it.

Although, you've been great though. If only there were more Rock fans like you around here, who realize, that YES, Rock DOES have limits, and he's not the greatest when it comes to drawing power.



Ohhhh, a 3.1 vs. a possible 2.9 rating that we would have gotten this week without him, you know 0.2 increase. That's a huge increase right Rocky? Nice drawing prowess

Give me a fucking break. Loads of us said the EXACT same thing during the Summer of Punk last year. We told you to give it time (before they completely fucked it up with the HHH/Nash angle) but of course, you had Rock's semen all over on your face, so all you did was call bullshit. Was the dick sucking worth it now that Rock is losing viewers and not much greater then the average roster in terms of drawing power?
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Difference is, I don't really give a fuck if Punk draws or not. I just enjoy him to hell. I just hate these Rock marks who put EVERYONE in the roster down, just for the Rock, thinking he's GOAT in the drawing game. And I say this as a big fan of his.

But it does feel nice to get back at them for saying that kind of stuff about Punk in the summer
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Difference is, I don't really give a fuck if Punk draws or not. I just enjoy him to hell. I just hate these Rock marks who put EVERYONE in the roster down, just for the Rock, thinking he's GOAT in the drawing game.

But it does feel nice to get back at them for saying that kind of stuff about Punk in the summer
Actually, the main reason why some Rock marks put CM Punk down is because CM Punk been talking thrash and disrespect The Rock. That is why some Rock marks always bash CM Punk every time they got opportunity.
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This is the rockmark contradiction that is annoying

Creative can kill Rocks momentum and star power so it is not his fault stuff does not draw.

But somehow when it comes to the rest of the roster, they suck and it's not because of the booking/creative but because they can't get over themselves and suck.
(except for HHH/Taker one guy who books his own shit and one who only works once a year and is working with the guy who is booking his own stuff)

Why can't we all just hate Steph/Creative/..... and their shit ideas together?
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Yeah because they had so much trouble doing a 3.2 last week without The Rock

Rest of your post was alright
I'm talking about this show, a show that was going to do below 3.0, the audience is not there now to do huge numbers, Rock can do it on a specific segment, Taker can do it and HBK/HHH can do it but not like last year when you had all the old school fanbase.
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It was a big factor but the number is still below last year because there's no hype or buzz. The Rock can't carry the worst roster of all time on his back all the time, that's not happening in the TV business. Just like with Rock, the Rumble concept gave them a boost but they drove all of them away again.
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