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post #1491 of 9175 (permalink) Old 02-28-2012, 09:25 PM
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wrestling is a dying industry.
It certainly seems that way in the United States unless a drastic change takes place. Actually, from the Puro that I do watch, it's obvious that the crowds are a lot smaller in Japan now too. WWE pretty much dictates the wrestling world. If interest is waning in WWE land, it's usually a pretty good indicator that it is waning elsewhere too. Ring Ka King and wrestling in India seems to be hot now, just like wrestling was real hot a few years ago with Rikishi's fed in Italy. WWE have just over-saturated the market in the U.S.

RAW is two hours a week. Smackdown in two hours a week. A Pay-Per-View (which there's more than twelve of a year) is three-hours a week. That's up to seven hours of WWE in one week. That's just if you watch one company. If you try to throw in TNA or ROH or something else too...it's just way too much. Not to mention that after one week of watching all seven hours you realize it's about forty minutes worth of new material and the rest is replays, video packages and commercials.

They need to change the model of their TV. I don't know what the answer is but what they're doing right now is obviously not working. I would make fundamental changes. No more cameras backstage, no more breaking the fourth wall, no more on-air authority figures or commentators with heel/face alignments. I'm not saying make it into a half-assed MMA like ROH thinks they're doing, but WWE needs to change the game up and others will follow suit.

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What do you expect? the hype is gone, last year Rock did a miracle and made wrestling cool for a few months, brought back a huge fanbase from the past and drew huge numbers in every aspect. This is not going to happen now after a year of terrible shows from WWE, all these people who were back, are not going to sit and watch all the shit WWE are doing with the worst roster of all time. This is not happening and Rock can't change that, that's like the WCW 1999-2000 affect that the audience lost so much faith in the brand that you could put on Austin vs Hogan and it wouldn't matter.

I don't know why they didn't talk about that Rock is going to be on RAW until WM? stupid move. I don't know about the Daytona thing but that's probably made an impact. We will see if that's the case for next week, wrestling is a dying industry.
If the rock cant change shit, why is even back? He can fuck back to hollywood.
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Yeah, the industry is dying. Only 3-4 million people watch every week. Wow, how will they survive?
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Yeah, the industry is dying. Only 3-4 million people watch every week. Wow, how will they survive?
You can make smart-ass jokes all you want, but WWE is the only show in town in the U.S. anymore. Vince McMahon just cut 100k from wrestlers house show money. They just had their first losing quarter. Their big guns can't get the numbers to go up. The majority of their roster, at least the guys at the top, are on their way out (Undertaker, Triple H, Chris Jericho, The Rock) and everyone under John Cena is not credible at all. Factor in that Vince McMahon is 66 years old, less people watch live television (DVR, internet, etc.)

Do you think that Vince McMahon is going to die and that The Miz and Kofi Kingston are going to carry WWE into the promised land while all the shareholders swim in their money Scrooge McDuck style?
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If the rock cant change shit, why is even back? He can fuck back to hollywood.
Did you already forget that the guy came back because of Cena and the WWE wanted him back? Personally I don't see why he came back anyways seeing as how most of the WWE fanbase nowadays are a bunch of ungrateful morons. He should have just left guys like you to suffer through Punk's and Cena's garbage night after night like you deserve.
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Do you think that Vince McMahon is going to die and that The Miz and Kofi Kingston are going to carry WWE into the promised land while all the shareholders swim in their money Scrooge McDuck style?
Everytime someone disagrees with you, you call them a smartass. And you're forgetting about Cena, Orton, Punk, Ziggler, Rhodes, Del Rio and a few others. The fact that you even use Miz when hes just a jobber now means you are reaching. People like you never have faith, just like many back in the mid-90s, all I heard was that WWE is dead, but guess what, it's still around and the ratings then were worse than now.
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Everytime someone disagrees with you, you call them a smartass. And you're forgetting about Cena, Orton, Punk, Ziggler, Rhodes, Del Rio and a few others. The fact that you even use Miz when hes just a jobber now means you are reaching. People like you never have faith, just like many back in the mid-90s, all I heard was that WWE is dead, but guess what, it's still around and the ratings then were worse than now.
And WWE DID almost die. TWICE. Once during the steroid trial bullshit (you can thank Afa) and once during the Monday Night Wars (you can thank Time Warner/AOL merger).

Vince isn't some genius promoter, he's a guy that first hit big with cable and then got lucky a couple of times but no wrestling promotion lives forever. WWE is no exception.

And how the fuck would you know anything about me at all, let alone my posting habits? I have no idea who you are and I've only been here for like two months or some shit. Don't give me that shit.

And fine, I won't use Miz. Do you think fuckin' Dolph Ziggler or Cody Rhodes or Alberto Del Rio are going to carry Stephanie McMahon/Triple H ran publicly-traded WWE into the promised land??? Because that might be even MORE delusional.

I'm sure all those FCW guys are huge mega draws just waiting in the weeds!!!! I mean, one of the biggest stars from the biggest era can't do it, but who boy, that jobber from the mid card just hasn't been given his fair shake!
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And WWE DID almost die. TWICE. Once during the steroid trial bullshit (you can thank Afa) and once during the Monday Night Wars (you can thank Time Warner/AOL merger).

Vince isn't some genius promoter, he's a guy that first hit big with cable and then got lucky a couple of times but no wrestling promotion lives forever. WWE is no exception.

And how the fuck would you know anything about me at all, let alone my posting habits? I have no idea who you are and I've only been here for like two months or some shit. Don't give me that shit.

And fine, I won't use Miz. Do you think fuckin' Dolph Ziggler or Cody Rhodes or Alberto Del Rio are going to carry Stephanie McMahon/Triple H ran publicly-traded WWE into the promised land??? Because that might be even MORE delusional.

I'm sure all those FCW guys are huge mega draws just waiting in the weeds!!!!
You never know. Austin was unemployed in 1995. Three years later, he was the biggest wrestler since Hogan. Wrestling is unpredictable. It's funner for some of us to be hopeful and just enjoy the show. But if you wanna be negative and whine about things we fans have no control over, go ahead.
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saw this "low" number and came in here for the hilarious overreaction to it and as usual i wasn't disappointed.

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before saying dwayne failed just wait for the ratings breakdown
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