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Old 02-28-2012, 07:56 PM   #1471 (permalink)
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15.2? I thought according to official numbers, it was 12% increase. Anyways that is not even a success for a PPV promoted as The Rock's return match in 7 long years.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:57 PM   #1472 (permalink)
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2011 vs. 2010:
Hell in a Cell down 13.3%
Vengeance/Bragging Rights down 11.7%
TLC down 8.2%
Survivor Series up 15.2%

160 domestic is no bueno when people portray him as the greatest of all time, biggest draw and most over mainstream superstar ever.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:58 PM   #1473 (permalink)
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Its the company. Vince has learned from Hogan, Austin & Rock taking walks when they get upset. He has spent his time making sure WWE itself is the draw and that all the characters within are replaceable. That shouldn't be too much of a surprise, its a similar idea to Marvel, DC Comics & Disney.

Some characters are more beloved and successful than others but ultimately those characters can't be mentioned without mentioning the world they exist in. WWF is to Hulk Hogan as Metropolis is to Superman, its the home of the character.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:59 PM   #1474 (permalink)
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Punk and Jericho both have big fanbases, so this feud alone can draw a pretty good amount.
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:01 PM   #1475 (permalink)
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People always overestimate. Rock fans on here claimed a one million buy at Survivor Series. LOL
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:02 PM   #1476 (permalink)
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Wrestlers can draw, but no one on the current roster does so in any significant or measurable manner (whether or not this is a failure of booking or talent is a different discussion).
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:03 PM   #1477 (permalink)
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Not at all. I find it absurd people are claiming The Rock can't draw when his movies draw over 100 million dollars.

Ratings and reputation have no bearing on Chris Jericho being my favourite wrestler, I thoroughly enjoy watching his antics on television, and I don't let the opinion of others sway my thoughts on him - or anything else for that matter.

Plus, Chris Jericho CAN & HAS drawn before. I'm sure 1 person will buy WrestleMania to see Chris Jericho wrestle CM Punk, so technically he drew at least 1 sale, because I'm buying it to see him.
If someone bought wrestlemania ppv for hornswoggle, does that mean hornswoggle is a draw?

Jericho never drew in his entire career ever, he never will. As punk said he was never the man and punk has surpassed him completely.
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15.2? I thought according to official numbers, it was 12% increase. Anyways that is not even a success for a PPV promoted as The Rock's return match in 7 long years.
15.2% based on the official numbers released in the shareholders report. If you take the losses by the surrounding PPVs as a 3 show average, SSeries would have been projected to drop 11.1% vs. 2010, so a 15.2% year-to-year gain is actually a 26.3% gain vs. projections.
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:06 PM   #1479 (permalink)
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What do you expect? the hype is gone, last year Rock did a miracle and made wrestling cool for a few months, brought back a huge fanbase from the past and drew huge numbers in every aspect. This is not going to happen now after a year of terrible shows from WWE, all these people who were back, are not going to sit and watch all the shit WWE are doing with the worst roster of all time. This is not happening and Rock can't change that, that's like the WCW 1999-2000 affect that the audience lost so much faith in the brand that you could put on Austin vs Hogan and it wouldn't matter.

I don't know why they didn't talk about that Rock is going to be on RAW until WM? stupid move. I don't know about the Daytona thing but that's probably made an impact. We will see if that's the case for next week, wrestling is a dying industry.
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People always overestimate. Rock fans on here claimed a one million buy at Survivor Series. LOL
That's bullshit, there was one guy who predicted a 500K buyrate and pretty much everyone agreed it was ludicrous. I followed the thread and actually most Rock fans were predicting somewhere between 275-350K. I'm not even debating whether or not it was a good number but the majority didn't expect it to do that well after the build up.

And another thing, it was hardly built up as The Rock's big return match. The hook they went with was the "most electrifying tag team/ never before never again" crap. If they wanted to sell it as Rock's big return they would have had him go out and do some talk shows or something to get the word out
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