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post #1281 of 9175 (permalink) Old 02-16-2012, 03:09 PM
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I'm prepping myself for the worst...

... thing is, I still wouldn't be okay with HHH ending the streak. A Cena/HHH heel alliance can still happen and be just as effective whether HHH ends the streak or not. If it's a fear of whether HHH will get booed or not that would make them have him end the streak, just listen to the reaction the crowd gave him after he said "THIS WILL ALL BE MINE!" He's still capable of getting heat with the right lines, and that's all they'd need to do.

Of course, I'm one of those few who's against anyone ending the streak who won't gain anything from it, not just HHH (and I mean that in relation to the whole debate "Should a younger guy end the streak who gain a lot from it, or should a legend end the streak which would be more fitting, but won't really do anything for that legend). Besides, if a Cena/HHH alliance did happen and they had Taker keep the streak this year, it would be the perfect set-up for Taker/Cena next year.

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Been updating the ratings I have as hadn't updated it since December. Some 2012 stats so far:

RAW
- 1 out of 7 episodes have averaged over 5 million (compared with 2 out of 7 for last year)
- No episodes have averaged under 4 million, although the January 9th episode was dangerously close with 4.002 million.
- RAW is currently averaging lower than this time last year - 4.47 million for this year compared with 4.86 million for the first 7 episodes last year an decrease of 0.39 million.
- Rather worrying though is when you compare the 4.47 million average with 2010, the first 7 episodes in 2010 averaged 5.31 million, so they've lost nearly 1 million viewers in two years. And that was when they had TNA competition on Monday's...

SmackDown
- 5 out of 6 episodes have averaged over 3 million
- The only episode to average under 3 million was on January 6th with 2.59 million
- SmackDown is currently averaging higher than this time last year - 3.11 million for this year compared with 2.99 million for the first 6 episodes last year an increase of 0.12 million.

Ignoring RAW's drop for a second and looking at SmackDown's 0.12 million increase. Is that down to Daniel Bryan as champion or the fact that SmackDown superstars are being featured on RAW? I think the latter, RAW is helping SmackDown.

BUT is that hurting RAW? Ignoring who is or who is not champion, is the overlap actually hurting RAW's viewership and hurting WWE's ability to develop new stars? If you don't like SmackDown then you may be put off watching RAW because SmackDown wrestlers on there (or if you are unable to receive Syfy for instance). This is a point beyond the weekly breakdowns but is SmackDown stars being on RAW hurting their ability to develop new stars for RAW and in the process hurting the ratings?
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^^^^^^ That's actually a really good point about the supershows helping SD. I never thought of it like that and it really makes sense when you think about it. I don't think it's happening in reverse though where SD is hurting Raw. I think it's more down to the fact that Raw has become so formulaic and has little star power. For the entertainment show of the company, merely having simple, basic storylines centered around wrestling like SD isn't going to cut it. They need stars and need them fast along with all the other over the top shit Raw is known for lol.

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Converted to what? You don't have to try and sell me on the fact that HHH is a "legend" in the wrestling business.
It was a joke lol. So many people were freaking the fuck out over a third HHH/Taker match and feud for Mania this year, including myself, yet after the promo on Raw a lot of peoples opinions seem to have changed regarding the matter.

For the record, I don't think or want HHH to end the streak. I don't think or want anybody to end the streak. But holy fuck if it happens when I'm there for it live and then later in the night we get a Cena heel turn on top of it you better know I'm going to mark out like I've never marked before lol.


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^^^^^^ That's actually a really good point about the supershows helping SD. I never thought of it like that and it really makes sense when you think about it. I don't think it's happening in reverse though where SD is hurting Raw. I think it's more down to the fact that Raw has become so formulaic and has little star power. For the entertainment show of the company, merely having simple, basic storylines centered around wrestling like SD isn't going to cut it. They need stars and need them fast along with all the other over the top shit Raw is known for lol.



It was a joke lol. So many people were freaking the fuck out over a third HHH/Taker match and feud for Mania this year, including myself, yet after the promo on Raw a lot of peoples opinions seem to have changed regarding the matter.

For the record, I don't think or want HHH to end the streak. I don't think or want anybody to end the streak. But holy fuck if it happens when I'm there for it live and then later in the night we get a Cena heel turn on top of it you better know I'm going to mark out like I've never marked before lol.
I'll second that, ther ea few things that can cause me to "mark out" anymore but these would be 2 of them.

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Is taker's streak is going to end, HHH is not the guy who is going to do it. HHH just respects him too much. Its one of the reasons he tapped out at mania despite being a top star.
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HHH always taps out at Mania. He's a bitch lol.


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It was a joke lol. So many people were freaking the fuck out over a third HHH/Taker match and feud for Mania this year, including myself, yet after the promo on Raw a lot of peoples opinions seem to have changed regarding the matter.
Too true. My opinion changed after Taker returned, but then the week after with the "This is not over" promo, I was sold on it.

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One promo and HHH has you all converted. The man is a legend lol.

It's more the possibility of Punk taking feuding with a heel duo of Cena/HHH and maybe having a match teaming with The Rock to take them on at Summerslam. However, I better not get myself to excited for the possibility of a Punk/Rock vs Cena/HHH feud. Knowing the WWE they'll go in a completely different direction, keep both Cena and HHH face and have a Miz vs HHH match or something.
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HHH is not staying after WM, just like last year, Cena is not turning heel and there's no reason to end the streak no matter what, especially not HHH who doesn't need it at all. If you can make a clone with Rock's charisma, Rock's look, Hogan's marketability, Angle's wrestling, Austin's badassness? then MAYBE we can talk about it.
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HHH always taps out at Mania. He's a bitch lol.
this line with your sig just made me lol so fucking hard

i cant stop laughing...
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